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Look, I just want you to know:
I think socialism is an awful system and will lead to untold suffering and pain. It is rationally an awful decision.
But I can also absolutely understand every single US-American living through this shit wanting radical change. I am aware I am writing this from a privileged Position from the Heart of Europe and my View would probably be different if I was living through the same shit as you.
I still think you should settle in the middle for social democracy, maybe something a bit more left of it, but I can understand if you get emotional and take radical decisions.
TBH does this really reflect on the justice system or the size of the perp’s fan club?
Luigi’s trial appearance had a shitload if protestors and threats associated with it. Luigi has people threatening to break him out, kill him, and or disrupt court. And all of that is happening in a massive sea of people.
That’s why security is much much higher.
Yeah, Eric Adam’s did this to send a message, but I don’t think he realized what the message was or how it would be received.
Protect the money at ALL cost.
Devil’s advocate here, nobody wants to break the serial killer out.
You’d be surprised but yes
Well of course, half the nation would get together to spring Luigi, but no one’s gonna come for a Nazi fuck face.
FR Luigi had a crowd waiting outside.
“Alright, but arrest him in a way that doesn’t make him look like a master-mind modern Robin Hood.”
“Damn.”
I would
When I first saw that Luigi Mangione photograph, I thought “damn, that guy’s about to drop the hottest rap album of 2025.”
Alright, yes, the Justice system is clearly overreacting to one type of murder over the other, yes. But, just for clarity, those armed guards are not there to maintain control of Luigi like he is a super villain that could take down 10 men with his bare hands. And they are not just there to send a message to the public (although it can’t be ruled out that there may be a conscious component of that going on). But they are there because his incarceration is high profile with a lot of supporters who might wish to attack the guards to free him AND a lot of people who might wish to hurt him becuase of the political symbol he has become. It could definitely be argued that the other guy should be as big of a deal, but he just isn’t as high profile, so the risk is way lower there.
If they were concerned wouldn’t they have him in a kevlar vest?
That’s fair. I’m sure it’s more the concern for someone attacking them than him
i’m pro Luigi but if the whole thing is a setup they really should have picked a less photogenic character. that man is incapable of not looking like a boss.
I dont think it was an intentional setup, its was a rookie cop (for real, he was new) who arrested the first person he found where one person from the public claimed it was the perpetrator, and he didn’t marandise him, searched his bag without him bring able to see it. And didn’t find a gun. Arrested him (remember I said didn’t marandise), called someone from new York, who came down 6 hours later, then they found a gun in his bag.
Yes Luigi was at a hostel in new York the day of the shooting. This is the only link they have. Similar, not the same looking jacket, other clothes were not the same. Was in the same city.
I dont believe Luigi was the shooter. If he was he woudlnt bring a gun to McDonald’s
I think he is the guy (not that it’s a bad thing).
The “anonymous tip” that lead to his capture was rather “illegal surveillance/technology the plebs don’t need to know about”. And they found the gun and manifesto in NY and planted it on him to make the case go smoother.
I honestly think they fucked up massively, thus the endless delays of the trial. In a high profile case like this, if the evidence was solid, they would have already crucified him.
I hope for a mistrial or acquittal, maybe it will be the final spark that ignites change in the US, and later the world, leading to the death of neoliberal capitalism.
Sounds like a much more complex reason than just incompetence, so both Occam’s razor and Hanlons razor would support incompetence rather than a conspiracy
And if that conspiracy was true, why would they send a rookie cop?
agreed that no one goes to that much trouble to carry out an assassination then walks around with the murder weapon. plus i wouldn’t trust a plastic homemade gun to begin with, but after it had been fired several times? that’s literally trash.
the only mitigating factor I guess could be mental illness. Brian Thompson wasn’t exactly an obvious target, as far as evil CEOs go, still seems weird to pick him
Have you read the things United Healthcare has done and continues to do to people in the name of profit, and even if that’s not enough, if your life or the life of someone you cared about got ruined because of the decisions of your insurance providers, that could be motivation enough for someone.
hey calm down i don’t work for them.
Yes can’t you see, hes unemployed, so he can’t work for them
you didn’t read the whole username. I got fired from being a claquer, which means I can’t get paid to clap in 19th century French theatre productions. Gosh!
No that would mean you are a claquer that is unemployed, I know because
I don’t understand how his right to a speedy trial is not being violated. He’s been in jail for how long and they still haven’t issued a ruling. Our justice system is fucked
Bruh, have you seen the court system? Trials could take years before it even begins.
Lots of people don’t get anything resembling a speedy trial in the US.
The difference between killing a noble vs. killing a group of peasants.
And he killed a CEO, not a billionaire.
Ruling class. He might not have been a billionaire but still deserved it.
(unfortunately)
Yes. College students are 5 cents a dozen. They’re useful to extract mortgage interest but they’re still 5 cents a dozen.
Alternatively, and I’m playing devil’s advocate here, but maybe there was more concern that someone might try to assassinate Luigi. After what happened with Jeffrey Epstein, authorities might have figured “the people will lose their minds if Luigi dies in custody, so let’s not take any chances”.
And that’s why they give him the best, too. On the surface, they will state it’s to protect him. But it’s optics.
To further play devils advocate, while most people seem to support him, it could just be some nut job who does it for notoriety that tries to assassinate him, rather than some rogue supporter of the ruling class, which is much less likely.
He is in no way comparable, what secrets to spill does Luigi have on the perverted oligarchs of the world?
to you and me that makes sense but honestly the American public is extremely forgetful. With Epstein in particular, we still don’t have clear answers or justice or a final accounting, and it’s whatever. America shrugs. Maxwell is in jail hopefully forever, but Trump will pardon her if it’s worth it to him.
Smoke weed -> years in prison, Rape someone -> months in jail
is there a difference between prison and jail?
Sort of. Jail is where people not privileged enough to afford bail await trial. And sometimes lesser sentences like if they’re under a year or in relation to a misdemeanor are served.
so jail is just a temporary imprisonment?
Short-term is probably a better description. Although, sometimes people get forgotten in jail and spend years waiting for trial
“Forgotten”
For misdemeanor sentences (under a year) you might do that in jail.
jail is where they’d put you to dry out, sober up, hopefully behave yourself. lots of old movies make jail seem comically quaint. I myself have been released from the lockup “on my own recognizance” or some such, basically means they didn’t want the expense of keeping me there, plus I agreed in writing to show up for the court date.
prison doesn’t have to mean federal time, could be a big scary state prison, but you get there from doing felonies. and the felony could be just weed, like you had a garbage bag full of it and shared it with friends.
I have been incarcerated in jail several times, and once I went to a maximum security prison to do some work. Jail was by far scarier, and not because I was locked up necessarily. Just the people there. A lot of them were fucking unhinged. Hanging off railings screaming like howler monkeys. Everyone in prison was very polite, they were making a community soup, just hanging out, visiting each other’s cells.
one appears in monopoly game
Moscow Idaho is a small college town that only has 35 pigs on staff it looks like. It would be a city wide event to move them in a comparable way, they’d be importing pigs from surrounding towns
