• IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    The Dutch and British just took home the natives of their colonies as immigrants who opened restaurants. Why try to emulate when you can get the real deal?

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    My Jamaican friend once said: “How many times do I have to tell you people flour is not a spice”.

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    Fucks me up as a German, too. Globalization gave us all kinds of tasty spices, but go to any public event and you’d be convinced our greatest culinary achievement is sausage with tomato ketchup and curry powder.

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        Also wenn du mich so fragst, hätte ich gerne so Döner-style Fladenbrot mit Kümmel, Schwarzkümmel und Senfkörnern im Teig. Das dann von innen bestrichen mit etwas Erdnussmus. Dann das übliche Döner-Grünzeug rein, aber kurz scharf in einem Wok angebraten und in Soja-Sauce getaucht. Darüber frisch gemalener bunter Pfeffer und ein guter Esslöffel kaltgepresstes Rapsöl. Und dann Champignons geschnetzelt + ordentlich angebraten und mit Gyros-Gewürzen mariniert noch darin einbetten.

        Ich denke, das sollte man gut in so einem Imbisswagen zubereiten können. 🙃

        Also habe jetzt natürlich übertrieben. Keine Ahnung, ob das noch gut ist. Aber habe tatsächlich schonmal so Champignon-Geschnetzeltes in einem Fladenbrot gemacht und das war extrem geil. Seither hätte ich tatsächlich gerne mal einen vollwertigen Döner damit…

    • letsgocrazy@lemm.ee
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      British invention anyway. Curry powder from the British occupying forces in Berlin.

      Gern gesehen.

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        But “Currywurst” (curry sausage) was invented in Berlin. Indian wouldn’t use curry powder without vegetables in this way, or currypower at all (correct me if I’m wrong)

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          Did you read the entire sentence “the British occupying forces in Berlin”

          British. In Berlin.

          Who do you think had lots of curry powder?

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            Curry powder is a British invention, Currywurst is German, only possible with the British but still a German invention

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    Legitimately, though: I listened to my sister tell her 4-year about “yummy spices” at Thanksgiving. The example she used was “like salt!” I was horrified.

    She also made & brought the absolute worst green bean casserole I have ever tasted in my life. It was like wet, crunchy green beans covered in French-fried onions (which came from a can, which is why it’s pretty much the only thing she got right).

    She used “no added salt/sodium” cream-of-mushroom soup, the green beans, and the canned fried onions, and added nothing else.

    I love green bean casserole, as it’s one of my favorite Thanksgiving foods. Even offered to make it for everyone this year! But she insisted that she wanted to do it.

    The only thing that was salty this Thanksgiving was me.

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      And let’s be real, the Brits gave up their own food in favor of Indian food. They love that Tikka masala.

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          If we’re to insist on it being a specific country’s food, it really should be Indian no? It was invented by Indian diaspora in the UK as (IIRC) a take on traditional Indian food using ingredients that are easier to obtain in the UK.

          IMO saying tikka masala is British food is like saying General Tso’s Chicken, which was invented by Chinese diaspora in the US for similar reasons, is somehow American food. I don’t think the country it was invented in can really claim credit in either case.

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            Tikka Masala is an Indian-Inspired dish which was invented in the UK by people with Indian cultural heritage. That’s about as concise a description as you can get without running into difficulties of definition - there’s no consistent way of defining what “being a dish” means without running into contradictions.

            In fact General Tso’s is the perfect counter-example: Multiple Chinese people have told me they enthusiastically disown General Tso’s Chicken and explicitly call it American food. So if we say “a dish belongs to a country if it’s invented there”, then Tikka Masala is British (which I agree “feels” wrong); but if we say “a dish belongs to a country if it was inspired by the cuisine of that country”, then General Tso’s is Chinese, which, apparently not!

            And that’s without even considering the question of how far “back” you should go with inspiration - what if a dish was inspired by how the Indians used food they got from the Persians who traded it with the Chinese - is it Indian food or Chinese food? (Idk if that’s historically nonsense, but you get my point) Why is the most-recent ancestor more important than the environment of creation?

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    They really did did Kill millions of people to get spices and then decide they didn’t like any of them.

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    The English have tikka masala, the Dutch have satay chicken.

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    Theres a lot of great dutch food! I will defend pannenkoek, stampot, oliebollen, Gouda, spekkoek, krokets, poffertjes, stroopwafel… hell, I love pickled herring.

    Dutch food is very underrated!

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    Sure, it was for spices, definitely not for money.

    It was a different time. We don’t do that anymore!

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        It’s good to read Marx books, but history books are better. That way you can see examples of how socialism always fails due to human corruption.

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    This reminds me of an old post I remember seeing where it depicted the contrast between anime food and English film food with some eggs. The anime ones were drawn with utmost care to look downright heavenly, while the English film eggs were very scraggly.

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    Dutch and British food isn’t bad, unless your a yank that only eats things pumped full of sugar.

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        Google chicken livers, scrapple, hot dogs, deep fried butter, hersheys chocolate. All pretty gross.

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      don’t make me bring up the mountain of grease-soaked fried foods that brits find acceptable as a meal. even as an american, i haven’t seen so much fried food in one place. and i’ve been to the southern united states many times.