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      From the article’s sub headline: ”Palestinians in Beit Hanoun were instructed by Israeli army to leave their homes and head for city centre. Hours later, the city centre was targeted”

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        Because Israel is fucking evil. Not Jews. Israel.

        Why is Israel evil?

        Extensive grooming by America.

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            Boiling it down to the system that has been in place for the last 30-40 years? Yes they do.

            They take the money. They take the weapons. They are told to use the weapons. They use the weapons on Palestine.

            Here, maybe I won’t get completely eviscerated for this one. Israel is Vader. The US is Palpatine.

            Israel was never forced to turn evil, but the US has the carrot and Israel keeps reaching for it.

            As a result, they have spent decades torturing and murdering innocent people. Small wonder a resistance formed.

            Now flash back to Iraq. America made Osama Bin Laden a national hero. America’s existence is the result of guerrilla warfare. I was taught by American education that America did it first. I know we didn’t.

            Anyway, America went into Iraq, helped install Saddam, rewarded Osama for being effective in installing Saddam, then Al Queda started doing things we didn’t like and we got stuck in war with Iraq for decades.

            The parallels between America’s involvement with Iraq and America’s involvement with Israel are astounding to me.

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              Huh? Osama bin Laden was 11 when Saddam Hussein became vice president of Iraq. He was in university when the president resigned and Hussein became president and then was fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan during the early years of his rule. Al-Qaeda had no presence in Iraq before the US invasion - and didn’t even exist until a decade after Hussein became president.

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                I love you.

                Let’s start here. You’re a great fact checker.

                Osama Bin Laden was celebrated by the Regan administration for uprooting soviet interests in the region, no?

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    Hamas are animals. Abducting children and internationals. These last few days have shown they do not deserve sympathy. Watching Palestinians cheer when rockets get launched just proves my point.

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      So instead you are cheering when civilians on the other side are being killed. Great logic. I hope you feel morally superior and can sleep better at night.

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        One simple rule to achieve peace and stability is diplomatic talk. You don’t use violence as answer.

        Attacking civilians is also plain and simple terrorism. Hamas proved with this action they are not worth more than terrorists.

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          Attacking civilians is also plain and simple terrorism

          So we’re in agreement that this is essentially two terrorist states fighting each other? And the biggest losers in all of this will be the innocent Israeli and Palestinian citizens who just want to live their lives in peace. Meanwhile Hamas and the Israeli state get to go back and forth playing the their sick game of race-to-the-bottom-of-the-morality-barrel trying to blow each other to smithereens.

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            If you’re 93 today, then you were about 18 years old when Israel became an autonomous nation (in 1948). Before that time, the Jews in the area were simply terrorists without a state.

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                Feel terror, make counter terror…

                Wait, isn’t this a popular valve game that is about to get a 3?

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            Yup.

            But don’t forget. They are deploying 1 time use type armament, so they are also getting subsidized to keep weapon makers profitable.

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      They have been horrifically oppressed for decades.

      They have lived in constant fight for your life squalor while America keeps siphoning money and weapons to Israel, who, in turn, simply tortures Palestine.

      I dont condone it, but I can’t bring myself to fake outrage or surprise.

      America caused this.

      America needs to stop funding terrorists (Israel). It only breeds more terrorists (Hamas).

      And at the end of the day, that was the point.

      There is another armed conflict for American military contractors to cash in on.

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        Your worldview is so fucked up. The reason Israel gets support is because if it didn’t, the surrounding Arab nations would have wiped it out, as they have said multiple times.

        It’s like a bully attacks a little kid, and the little kid’s older brother shows up to defend him, and then you saying, “the older brother caused this because he wouldn’t let the bully beat up that little kid!”

        You’ve got it all backwards man. Get help.

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          When the little brother starts slaughtering all of the innocent people who “are totally all bullies” and bombing their homes with impunity for 40 years with virtually no consequence, somewhere over those 40 years, the brothers became the bullies in the neighborhood.

          Start using your brain big boy.

          Stop regurgitating what Fox tells you to.

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        America needs to stop funding terrorists (Israel). It only breeds more terrorists (Hamas).

        Add to your list that Israel actively funded Hamas in the 90s to take the steam out of the Palestinian peace movement.

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    Crosspost Comment from another related news article:

    Don’t tell me that Hamas didn’t know how Israel would react. To keep the hate flowing is the goal of all extremists.

    Edit: That Netanyahu openly admitted to support Hamas on some occasions, shows that Hamas AND Netanjahu want each other as permanent enemies: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/526488/Anyone-who-wants-to-thwart-the-establishment-of-a-Palestinian

    Since many of you seem to think of themselves as having viable solutions for the Israel/Palestine conflict- go ahead: Tell us how Israel should act after this Terrorist Attack.

    Please refrain from bad faith arguments and stuff like „Israel should dissolve itself“ (because you and I know, that’s not going to happen)

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      Edit: That Netanyahu openly admitted to support Hamas on some occasions, shows that Hamas AND Netanjahu want each other as permanent enemies: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/526488/Anyone-who-wants-to-thwart-the-establishment-of-a-Palestinian

      Since many of you seem to think of themselves as having viable solutions for the Israel/Palestine conflict- go ahead: Tell us how Israel should act after this Terrorist Attack.

      You just hinted at the start of a possible solution. Israelis need to stop voting for warmongering criminals like Netanyahu who have zero desire to see peace. The people in Gaza? They don’t get to vote.