A first-of-its-kind legal challenge set to be heard this month, per reports
        • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.mlEnglish
          13·
          29 days ago

          It’s already gone because it’s not disclosed when or why it is moved to servers where the Chinese govt can decrypt it, but I guess it depends on who you’re worried about having your data

          • micka190@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            29 days ago

            No one outside of China has their data stored there, though. Every tech company that complies with China hosts the data in China and usually makes the Chinese version of their software work differently as a result. The Chinese government isn’t able to just see everyone else’s data.

            • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.mlEnglish
              63·
              29 days ago

              No one outside of China has their data stored there, though.

              1. There’s no way to tell if Apple transfers your data there
              2. Apple does not clarify how they decide when to transfer your data there
              3. You are putting a lot of faith into a system that shows no transparency

              https://support.apple.com/en-us/111754

              • Balder@lemmy.worldEnglish
                3·
                29 days ago

                This is true, but considering all the US government problems with China, if Apple does send your data to Chinese servers regardless of where you are, I’d guess governments in the US and Europe would make iPhones forbidden for all their sensitive personnel.

    • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      28 days ago

      They care more about protecting their IP and public image, not end privacy of users.

      They make a big fuss anytime a public request comes up like the FBI a few years ago, but they have zero issue funneling everything into the NSA just like every other Silicon Valley shmuck.

        • daddy32@lemmy.worldEnglish
          15·
          28 days ago

          They can win it in a way that will still benefit only them and not you.

            • daddy32@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              28 days ago

              Yes, I do. Don’t assume. If they win or lose is irrelevant. If they win, it will not be used for some glorious precedent forever pushing against the governments asking to compromise all software solutions, it will be just a saved implementation time for apple and a pr boost for them among people who don’t know better. If they lose, it will be yet another trust and security issue with a closed proprietary unauditable product noone security minded should be using anyway, by a shit company with ties to fascist, willingly cooperating with PRISM and who knows what other programs, in a rogue state which is a part of Five Eyes.

    • Zeon@lemmy.worldEnglish
      114·
      29 days ago

      Apple is all proprietary anyways, so you shouldn’t trust them still, even if they win this court case. I recommend using Librebooted Dell OptiPlex 780’s or Dell E4300 Latitude’s with Trisquel GNU/Linux + Tor Browser with Javascript disabled if your looking for the most privacy in your internet activites. You can do what you wish with this information.

        • Zeon@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          28 days ago

          I think we should attack this issue at the root. There are already backdoors in the devices anyway, so what’s this court case really going to achieve? I get it, because it would be a known backdoor, but think of all the nastier NSA backdoors that aren’t disclosed to the public. We’ve lost already by the masses using this proprietary garbage. Schools have failed to teach libre software, this is one of the major reasons we’re here in the first place.