This is objectively not true at all. Most of people ISN’T happy, they have tons of responsibility so they can’t quit. Maybe they earn well so with money they can cope. My art and celebration is different than you, but it’s cope. I like depressants, I don’t hear voices so antipsycho idk if it’s for me. But it still is coping with drugs lol… Most people isn’t happy, they are coping with whatever they could: sex, drugs, shopping, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIntgOcWsJg&t=4s
Gracias por el link. Mi español no es muy bueno, pero creo que comprendí la letra. ¿De dónde eres? Yo soy brasileño pero vivi un rato en Perú hace muchos años.
What I said isn’t “objectively” true or untrue, as I’m talking about a purely subjective phenomenon: happiness. Your choice of language betrays the radicalization of thought caused by your coping mechanism. You are incapable of seeing reality for what it is - this is the main symptom of every mental illness.
Antipsychotics aren’t just for people who hear voices. They’re for anyone with a dopamine imbalance. The name just comes from what they were first used for. Likewise, antidepressants aren’t just for depression, but for serotonin imbalances. They can also help with anxiety, panic attacks, etc. Bipolar disorder does not respond to antidepressants (because it isn’t caused by a serotonin imbalance) but responds to antipsychotics (because it is caused by a dopamine imbalance). As I said, type 2 bipolar can present just like depression, but antidepressants just make it worse while antipsychotics make it better.
There is also a very important difference between “coping with drugs” and using medicine to fix a malfunction in your brain. Let’s take diabetes as an example. If someone’s pancreas doesn’t produce insulin and so they take insulin shots, is that “coping with drugs” and just a way to distract themselves from the reality of diabetes, or are they effectively fixing the problem (no insulin) the best way available (getting insulin from outside)? Furthermore, if they were trying to escape from the reality of having diabetes, they wouldn’t take insulin, because only people who admit they have diabetes voluntarily take insulin. I assume this point is not controversial… But suddenly if we replace the pancreas with the brain, “solving a problem” becomes “coping with drugs”. It’s still the same logic. Problem = dopamine imbalance. Solution = dopamine balancer (antipsychotic).
Three things are obvious to me from this conversation.
One, you’re quite an intelligent fellow. You’re well articulated, stay on topic and your comments are structured in a logical way.
Two, you’re desperately ill-informed about mental health, probably a result of going to a less-than-competent psychiatrist. Or two. Or five.
Three, your disease has advanced to the point where you see no hope for yourself or others and flat out ignore any evidence against your hopelessness by claiming without proof that it’s all fake - an extremely irrational position that is incompatible with the intelligence you’ve shown.
Oh, there’s also a fourth thing. It’s obvious that you’re alive or you wouldn’t be replying to me. This means you haven’t killed yourself. And that means that you’re absolutely, completely full of shit. If you actually believed in all this ridiculous nonsense about how happiness doesn’t really exist, you’d have offed yourself by now. You wouldn’t even bother talking to me like this. Now, since you’re still alive, that means you still have hope. But you’re lying to me and to yourself that you don’t. This lie is more proof of your disease.
I went through many psychiatrists that misdiagnosed me with depression and treated me with drugs that just made me worse before finding one who finally put me on antipsychotics. I get that you’ve had your share of failed treatments as well, but if you haven’t tried this approach yet, why not give it a shot? What do you have to lose? Why the fuck are you so attached to being miserable?
I am not the one that is lying to himself, it is you, with your coping mechanisms such as Ketamine and antipsychos, lol. And I thought I was coping when I was taking few beers with friends.
The fact that you can’t see a difference is very telling. You drink to numb your mind. You take medicine to sharpen it and face your problems head on so you can solve them instead of avoiding them. If both approaches are the same to you, I really wonder why you choose to continue living every day.
I asked myself this a lot. I get to a conclusion: I will stay here as long as my status quo doesn’t get largely affected by poverty or sickness, trying to do what I like.
Not really, i dont take my life for two big reasons mostly: the amount of pain that it brings me, and the pain that brings to my closest ones. There are no reason for me to exist.
This is objectively not true at all. Most of people ISN’T happy, they have tons of responsibility so they can’t quit. Maybe they earn well so with money they can cope. My art and celebration is different than you, but it’s cope. I like depressants, I don’t hear voices so antipsycho idk if it’s for me. But it still is coping with drugs lol… Most people isn’t happy, they are coping with whatever they could: sex, drugs, shopping, etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIntgOcWsJg&t=4s
Gracias por el link. Mi español no es muy bueno, pero creo que comprendí la letra. ¿De dónde eres? Yo soy brasileño pero vivi un rato en Perú hace muchos años.
What I said isn’t “objectively” true or untrue, as I’m talking about a purely subjective phenomenon: happiness. Your choice of language betrays the radicalization of thought caused by your coping mechanism. You are incapable of seeing reality for what it is - this is the main symptom of every mental illness.
Antipsychotics aren’t just for people who hear voices. They’re for anyone with a dopamine imbalance. The name just comes from what they were first used for. Likewise, antidepressants aren’t just for depression, but for serotonin imbalances. They can also help with anxiety, panic attacks, etc. Bipolar disorder does not respond to antidepressants (because it isn’t caused by a serotonin imbalance) but responds to antipsychotics (because it is caused by a dopamine imbalance). As I said, type 2 bipolar can present just like depression, but antidepressants just make it worse while antipsychotics make it better.
There is also a very important difference between “coping with drugs” and using medicine to fix a malfunction in your brain. Let’s take diabetes as an example. If someone’s pancreas doesn’t produce insulin and so they take insulin shots, is that “coping with drugs” and just a way to distract themselves from the reality of diabetes, or are they effectively fixing the problem (no insulin) the best way available (getting insulin from outside)? Furthermore, if they were trying to escape from the reality of having diabetes, they wouldn’t take insulin, because only people who admit they have diabetes voluntarily take insulin. I assume this point is not controversial… But suddenly if we replace the pancreas with the brain, “solving a problem” becomes “coping with drugs”. It’s still the same logic. Problem = dopamine imbalance. Solution = dopamine balancer (antipsychotic).
Three things are obvious to me from this conversation.
One, you’re quite an intelligent fellow. You’re well articulated, stay on topic and your comments are structured in a logical way.
Two, you’re desperately ill-informed about mental health, probably a result of going to a less-than-competent psychiatrist. Or two. Or five.
Three, your disease has advanced to the point where you see no hope for yourself or others and flat out ignore any evidence against your hopelessness by claiming without proof that it’s all fake - an extremely irrational position that is incompatible with the intelligence you’ve shown.
Oh, there’s also a fourth thing. It’s obvious that you’re alive or you wouldn’t be replying to me. This means you haven’t killed yourself. And that means that you’re absolutely, completely full of shit. If you actually believed in all this ridiculous nonsense about how happiness doesn’t really exist, you’d have offed yourself by now. You wouldn’t even bother talking to me like this. Now, since you’re still alive, that means you still have hope. But you’re lying to me and to yourself that you don’t. This lie is more proof of your disease.
I went through many psychiatrists that misdiagnosed me with depression and treated me with drugs that just made me worse before finding one who finally put me on antipsychotics. I get that you’ve had your share of failed treatments as well, but if you haven’t tried this approach yet, why not give it a shot? What do you have to lose? Why the fuck are you so attached to being miserable?
What do you have to lose? Why the fuck are you so attached to being miserable? To not lose perspective.
And what advantages does your deeply flawed perspective bring you? Does it make you suffer less, or is it just an easy way to lie to yourself?
I am not the one that is lying to himself, it is you, with your coping mechanisms such as Ketamine and antipsychos, lol. And I thought I was coping when I was taking few beers with friends.
The fact that you can’t see a difference is very telling. You drink to numb your mind. You take medicine to sharpen it and face your problems head on so you can solve them instead of avoiding them. If both approaches are the same to you, I really wonder why you choose to continue living every day.
I asked myself this a lot. I get to a conclusion: I will stay here as long as my status quo doesn’t get largely affected by poverty or sickness, trying to do what I like.
So you still think life is worth living, even though you claim that it isn’t. Well aren’t you a happy little hypocrite? Welcome to the club.
Not really, i dont take my life for two big reasons mostly: the amount of pain that it brings me, and the pain that brings to my closest ones. There are no reason for me to exist.