I fear it will be like anti vaxxers dying on a ventilator during covid. By the time they realize that they did in fact fuck up and the magnitude of said fuckup, they’ll have metaphorical tubes in their throat and it will be too late for it to matter. What I fear the most is that we have less than a year or that we’re already there. Talks of invasion and third term abound it’s only a matter of time the melting brain of trump starts trying to nuke someone
I fear it will be like anti vaxxers dying on a ventilator during covid. By the time they realize that they did in fact fuck up and the magnitude of said fuckup, they’ll have metaphorical tubes in their throat and it will be too late for it to matter.
It’s already too late for it to matter. At the first whimpering of complaints from some tiny minority of Republican voters they just stopped showing up to their own town halls.
Every R in an elected position is complicit at best and full throated supporting at worst (and for that matter so is every R in my circle of family and friends - no surprise given his 92% favorability rating with Republicans), and elected R representatives no longer even care about the opinions of their base unless they are from the ones still drinking the flavor aid.
I have some R’s in my circle who say I’m over-reacting, but I feel the objective evidence is out there. Maybe they’re just ok with it. What’s your experience with your R circle?
Depending on topic, they are either OK with it, that I’m over reacting (they are only putting criminals in those camps), or believe any evidence not from the sources you might expect is fake.
And honestly, I don’t push at all, because I’m going to change zero minds and I’ve got enough cortisol in my life already. I prefer to just pretend those people aren’t in my circle when I can.
I’m a naturally opinionated, confrontational, and accusatory person, so it’s hard to not hold my R-voter circle accountable, especially when they not only won’t condemn what’s going on, but they defend it, deflect, and try to gaslight. I keep wondering how bad things have to get for them to finally admit something’s wrong, but at the same time I’m hoping I’m the one who’s wrong and things are only going to be a little bad. I’d much rather have been wrong and laughed at later than to be right about what’s on the horizon.
Due to events since then - namely Cory Booker - if you have any kind of regular dialogue with those folks that you’d be comfortable sharing, I’d love to know if it penetrated at all in your opinion.
I’d much rather have been wrong and laughed at later than to be right about what’s on the horizon.
Dude, I firmly believe that if we appear wrong later, it means that things happened openly or behind the scenes that stopped it, not that we were wrong.
I would sincerely like to see another post from you if/when you cross that line where even the die hards (or for that matter even the rank and file Rs) start to think something smells.
but they defend it, deflect, and try to gaslight.
This is a huge part of why I just don’t engage. I can handle protracted, passionate disagreement. I can’t handle deflections, false equivalences and gaslighting. I cannot deal with that kind of thing like a rational adult, and then I get accused of being angry due to disagreement when it’s nothing of the sort.
I fear it will be like anti vaxxers dying on a ventilator during covid. By the time they realize that they did in fact fuck up and the magnitude of said fuckup, they’ll have metaphorical tubes in their throat and it will be too late for it to matter. What I fear the most is that we have less than a year or that we’re already there. Talks of invasion and third term abound it’s only a matter of time the melting brain of trump starts trying to nuke someone
It’s already too late for it to matter. At the first whimpering of complaints from some tiny minority of Republican voters they just stopped showing up to their own town halls.
Every R in an elected position is complicit at best and full throated supporting at worst (and for that matter so is every R in my circle of family and friends - no surprise given his 92% favorability rating with Republicans), and elected R representatives no longer even care about the opinions of their base unless they are from the ones still drinking the flavor aid.
I have some R’s in my circle who say I’m over-reacting, but I feel the objective evidence is out there. Maybe they’re just ok with it. What’s your experience with your R circle?
Depending on topic, they are either OK with it, that I’m over reacting (they are only putting criminals in those camps), or believe any evidence not from the sources you might expect is fake.
And honestly, I don’t push at all, because I’m going to change zero minds and I’ve got enough cortisol in my life already. I prefer to just pretend those people aren’t in my circle when I can.
I’m a naturally opinionated, confrontational, and accusatory person, so it’s hard to not hold my R-voter circle accountable, especially when they not only won’t condemn what’s going on, but they defend it, deflect, and try to gaslight. I keep wondering how bad things have to get for them to finally admit something’s wrong, but at the same time I’m hoping I’m the one who’s wrong and things are only going to be a little bad. I’d much rather have been wrong and laughed at later than to be right about what’s on the horizon.
Due to events since then - namely Cory Booker - if you have any kind of regular dialogue with those folks that you’d be comfortable sharing, I’d love to know if it penetrated at all in your opinion.
Dude, I firmly believe that if we appear wrong later, it means that things happened openly or behind the scenes that stopped it, not that we were wrong.
I would sincerely like to see another post from you if/when you cross that line where even the die hards (or for that matter even the rank and file Rs) start to think something smells.
This is a huge part of why I just don’t engage. I can handle protracted, passionate disagreement. I can’t handle deflections, false equivalences and gaslighting. I cannot deal with that kind of thing like a rational adult, and then I get accused of being angry due to disagreement when it’s nothing of the sort.