• NJSpradlin@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I mean, if the CIA weren’t actively undermining communist governments and causing them to collapse, or funding spoiler or puppet candidates to distort the communist government’s growth and ideals, because communism is a direct assault on capitalism and their capitalist overlords… then maybe you’d see a functioning communist country…

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      Maybe, maybe not. That’s an untested theory. Though I do think communists tend to overstate the power and influence of the CIA and other western sabotage. They certainly had an influence but they were not solely responsible for every single domestic problem the PRC and USSR had. Many were clearly attributable to their own policy decisions.

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      Meh, you’re still thinking of scenarios that aren’t our reality to make it happen. You’re just saying that the CIA are the baddies and the greeds.

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      Resilience to outside interference and internal perturbations is one of the criteria based on which a system has to be evaluated.

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        Oh, come on. When you and your neighbor are in the same socio-economic bracket sure, that’s fine. But, when you have a petty neighborly fight with Elon Musk, do you really think it’s a fair fight?

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          It’s not a fair fight, but it’s gonna happen anyway. I mean a population of perfectly exploitable labor with no one to exploit them just sprung up; why would capitalists ever do anything except try to exploit it?

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      I think y’all put way too much credit in the competency of the CIA lmao