There are stats that show that guns kill more children in the US than anything else (and it is a US only problem). I simply made a criticism at irresponsible gun owners and you keep trying to die on the hill to justify them. I drive a car and I am not going to make a cause to keep drunk drivers. And that is also part of the risk balance.
Recall that I did start with empathy for the position of owning guns, but drew a line at those who abuse those rights. And I did call you out for doubling down on missing the point on purpose. I think you owe me a bit of an apology.
That study was done during covid. It’s no longer true and is motor vehicles again. That also includes suicides which are 2/3rds of our firearm deaths. The # of kids who find their parents gun and accidentally shoot themselves is miniscule. Like it or not, restricting firearm access because of a few accidents is not a good enough reason. Period.
You might be against drunk driving, but you’d take pause if everyone who purchased alcohol had to drink it in designated places so they could be monitored.
restricting firearm access because of a few accidents is not a good enough reason. Period.
You’re definition of a few needs updating. And its an L take to defend the irresponsible. Again I cancoundt the responsible ones I know with one hand. I am being reasonable in my judgements here.
Everyone I know that says “I need my guns at easy access” is a libertarian trying to justify leaving their loaded guns lying around anywhere.
Your position is incredibly ridiculous. One thing is self defense. Another isjustify mediocrity. Please take some self inventory about what you’re saying.
You’re definition of a few needs updating. And its an L take to defend the irresponsible. Again I cancoundt the responsible ones I know with one hand. I am being reasonable in my judgements here.
Again, more kids die from drownings in pools than accidentally shooting themselves. And its a order of magnitude more yearly.
Filtering through data from 2009 to 2018 across 33 states, the team counted 279 cases in which kids under 15 accidentally died due to firearm injury.
In a 10 year period 279 and that’s between ages 1 and 14.
Pool drownings, on average every year…358 children drowned…
Parents and caregivers can follow essential water safety guidelines to keep young ones safer in and around water. From 2019 to 2021, an average of 358 children fatally drowned in pools or spas and 6,500 visit the ER annually each year.
Everyone I know that says “I need my guns at easy access” is a libertarian trying to justify leaving their loaded guns lying around anywhere.
Everyone I know who doesn’t understand statistics makes wild shit up to support their nanny state bullshit.
Your position is incredibly ridiculous. One thing is self defense. Another isjustify mediocrity. Please take some self inventory about what you’re saying.
Says the person who is wanting to put in place draconian laws that will do way more harm than good.
Why don’t you stick to fixing the pool problem first if protecting the children is the ultimate goal. After all 358 die annually to drowning in pools vs around 27 a year to firearms…or is that because firearms don’t have a purpose and need to be curtailed?
See you are being disingenuous and bad faith here. As if kids are the only drowning.
Says the person who is wanting to put in place draconian laws that will do way more harm than good.
Quote them pls.
Do road ragers who brandish guns deserve them too? You are defending them as well. I’ve been threaten with fire arms over parking spaces. You really trying to tell me irresponsible gun owners are a minor inconvenient?
Everyone I know who doesn’t understand statistics makes wild shit up to support their nanny state bullshit.
Crazy. The way I see it you are the one not understanding stats in their broader context to justify mediocrity and bad behavior. And in the above thread I’ve pointed out why I think you are a bad faith libertarian.
Also from your own link:
Experts recommend some key things families can do to avoid the risk of an accidental shooting.
Keeping firearms locked and in secure locations, out of the reach of kids, is a critical step that researchers agree could help stop young children from harming themselves or others. Simply hiding firearms rather than locking them, Michaels said, can be like hiding holiday gifts: Naturally curious kids end up finding them.
Which is what I’ve been saying. I rest my case. Please be mature about the issues.
I think I made my case on why I felt the way I did, and why I felt you are being disingenuous.
https://www.kff.org/mental-health/issue-brief/child-and-teen-firearm-mortality-in-the-u-s-and-peer-countries/
There are stats that show that guns kill more children in the US than anything else (and it is a US only problem). I simply made a criticism at irresponsible gun owners and you keep trying to die on the hill to justify them. I drive a car and I am not going to make a cause to keep drunk drivers. And that is also part of the risk balance.
Recall that I did start with empathy for the position of owning guns, but drew a line at those who abuse those rights. And I did call you out for doubling down on missing the point on purpose. I think you owe me a bit of an apology.
That study was done during covid. It’s no longer true and is motor vehicles again. That also includes suicides which are 2/3rds of our firearm deaths. The # of kids who find their parents gun and accidentally shoot themselves is miniscule. Like it or not, restricting firearm access because of a few accidents is not a good enough reason. Period.
You might be against drunk driving, but you’d take pause if everyone who purchased alcohol had to drink it in designated places so they could be monitored.
You’re definition of a few needs updating. And its an L take to defend the irresponsible. Again I cancoundt the responsible ones I know with one hand. I am being reasonable in my judgements here.
Everyone I know that says “I need my guns at easy access” is a libertarian trying to justify leaving their loaded guns lying around anywhere.
Your position is incredibly ridiculous. One thing is self defense. Another isjustify mediocrity. Please take some self inventory about what you’re saying.
Again, more kids die from drownings in pools than accidentally shooting themselves. And its a order of magnitude more yearly.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/26/health/children-accidental-shootings/index.html
In a 10 year period 279 and that’s between ages 1 and 14.
Pool drownings, on average every year…358 children drowned…
https://www.poolsafely.gov/2024/07/11/new-data-shows-child-drownings-remain-high/#%3A~%3Atext=Parents+and+caregivers+can+follow%2Cthe+ER+annually+each+year.
Everyone I know who doesn’t understand statistics makes wild shit up to support their nanny state bullshit.
Says the person who is wanting to put in place draconian laws that will do way more harm than good.
Why don’t you stick to fixing the pool problem first if protecting the children is the ultimate goal. After all 358 die annually to drowning in pools vs around 27 a year to firearms…or is that because firearms don’t have a purpose and need to be curtailed?
See you are being disingenuous and bad faith here. As if kids are the only drowning.
Quote them pls.
Do road ragers who brandish guns deserve them too? You are defending them as well. I’ve been threaten with fire arms over parking spaces. You really trying to tell me irresponsible gun owners are a minor inconvenient?
Crazy. The way I see it you are the one not understanding stats in their broader context to justify mediocrity and bad behavior. And in the above thread I’ve pointed out why I think you are a bad faith libertarian.
Also from your own link:
Which is what I’ve been saying. I rest my case. Please be mature about the issues.