Let me apologize first. I’m both old and new to Linux and have made a ton of noob moves since switching back. I know most people in this community are probably already Linux users, but I’m hoping that some Linux-curious people will stumble upon this.
Lets start with the game. I am a former League of Legends addict. Embarrassing, I know, but I had been playing since the glory days (I started right at the beginning of season 2). I never ranked; I would play ARAM and URF to either pass time or keep myself awake if I felt drowsy. I was good, too. Not great, but more often than not I’d go 16/2/12 or something similar. It released massive amounts of dopamine for me. The ARAM bridge felt like a home away from home.
Moving on from League… I had been starting to smell Microsoft’s shit from a long loooong ways away. Like, Win7 days (rest in peace, XP). I had been introduced to Linux and the basics of maintaining Linux from a class I took in high school. Lets be honest, though, Linux wasn’t really in a gaming state then. You could, but you would be jumping through a lot of hoops for a 50/50 chance it would be stable gameplay. Honestly, though, Microsoft’s stink flows much further back than you’d think and it was already grating on me then. I was already considering the move.
I sat on Win10 for a while and even opened my PC to the Win11 beta. It was okay, I didn’t auto-hate it like most because a lot of the Windows UI I used was third party and I changed theme colors through the registry. There were ways to remove bloat and most Microsoft snooping garb, but it took work. Thinking I knew what I was doing, I messed with the system32 folder. If this were the Win7 days, I probably would have known what I was doing. I simply wanted to change the internal image viewer to a 3rd party viewer. Microsoft gave default selections for a lot of things, but changing photo gallery was a fight for some reason.
Needless to say, I messed up. No default apps would open anymore. Couldn’t even get calculator running. So I reinstalled. Back then, you still had to use Win10 and update to 11. I reinstalled, saw my windows old folder, knew everything was safe, and updated. Huge mistake. Win11 was not just an update, even if you start it from the update panel. It’s a full OS install. My ignorant self thought it was just a Win10 glow up. My windows old folder got overwritten by an empty windows old folder.
After a whole day of recovery process I probably recovered 99% of my files, but my time with Windows was quickly closing. My friend pointed out that this was a good time to try Linux. Steam Deck had just launched and Linux was gaining ground in the gaming scene and FAST. So I backed everything up to external (which I should have done earlier, smfh) and grabbed the most likely candidate, Pop!_OS. Soon after, at my friend’s pestering, I switched to Arch- Manjaro- and then later EndeavourOS.
I messed up EndeavourOS by using topgrade. It didn’t occur to me that it was user error, and I just thought it was something EOS didn’t rub shoulders well with in my system. So back to Manjaro. Then D4 came out. Another shame of mine. I’m a huge Diablo 2 fan and played my fair share of D3. I got the early access. Couldn’t play. Panicking, I reinstalled Windows 11… just to find that the game was pure garbage. I played for a bit, hoping things would improve but… Blizzard got me again. But I was not moving back. I had moved so much already. Funny thing is: Proton came out with an update not even 24 hours later that fixed D4… Doh.
During my second time on Win11, Riot pushed out their knuckleheaded kernel-level anticheat. I wasn’t worried, I was on Win11, w/e. Then Microsoft dropped some big shits on Windows. Snapshots of your screens (“it’ll be held in a private encrypted partition of you drive!”, yeah fucking right… pull the other one), ads in the start bar, and then pushy af popups to integrate your system with their AI. I was insulted. Win11 was already one giant piece of malicious software even before all this. Granted, I used startallback so I didn’t get the ads, but it was the idea of the thing.
So I did it. I dropped League and moved to base Arch. I will not let Microsoft have even 100gb of my drive now. I make do by playing other games, being actually productive in life, or diving into something new within Linux. I grew up. I said no. PC owners should be banding together and dropping Windows right into the garbage. Screw their proprietary plugins, screw their insecure kernel access, screw their ads and data-harvesting AI, and screw their sneaky photos of my screen. I knew when they backpedaled on that screenshot shit that they’d push it more quietly later. I told everyone that they would. And they did.
Dive into VSCodium, or Neovim, or VIM, or emacs. Explore open source and, like me, find that most apps are pleasantly better than their commercial counterparts. Play with your terminal. Wreck things and reinstall (just hard copy everything to external first). Lets make ODF industry standard, like it should have been before Microsoft outbid and muscled docx in. It may take ten, twenty, fifty years but fuck it. I’m all in and my bet is on Linux. My next big project for my next PC build? Gentoo (I am not quite ready for Linux from Scatch, lmao). Its time I actually learned more. I’ve already dived deep into the Arch Wiki and I’ve already dived into NixOS and nixlang. We need to go deeper now.
Linux is easier than ever now. Experiment with it! Scared to fully make the move? Grab a small SSD to test it out safely! Just… know what you’re doing with partitions before you do. Either that or take your main SSD out before installing. However, most Linux distros let you use them right from the USB stick to check them out. Just ignore the installer and play around a bit. Remember that USB is going to be substantially slower, so don’t make your decision off of speed. You’d be surprised at how much faster Linux can be.
tl;dr: Switch to Linux and stop giving out your data for free. Ad analytics should be a choice, and one you’re paid to do. Your information is incredibly valuable and so is your privacy. If you pay for a product, that company should NOT be triple dipping and making more money off of you, no matter how non-invasive it is. Its all invasive, even if its hidden.
PS: I won’t mention mac here. I really have no experience in iOS or macOS. Apple garden is Apple garden and that’s about all I know. Microsoft and I go way back (Windows 3.14), and I’ve watched them slowly and then quickly corrupt over time. Like a turd rolling downhill and collecting garbage.
League was the reason I stalled so long, too, but honestly, Riot is just as bad as Microsoft. Vanguard is unacceptable and we should make our voices heard by not playing their games anymore. There are so many great games running just fine on Linux, nowadays I don’t even feel like I’m restricted at all
Going to do the same with Warzone in 3…2…
Thank you for the last bit of inspiration I needed.
It has been one of the best choices I’ve made. The itch to play does go away after a while once you break the routine.
I have a couple of “pandemic friends” I play with once a week. The problem is that just because of that I have one shitty game (because of the propaganda and the actual quality of the game) from a shitty company taking up 200 GB of space on my SSD and they keep me on the only Slack I use outside of work.
Yeah, I think it’s time. I am an indie game patient Steam player otherwise anyway.
It’s kind of fascinating: the Steam Deck is the only device I can think of with a “halo effect” that doesn’t involve giving a company more money: the ecosystem it pulls you into is an open one, and you don’t even have to have purchased a Deck to jump in based on the idea alone.
Yeah, the Steam Deck launched at a loss to the company, with the business model that the income would come from the influx of Steam users buying games. It was a very well executed business plan that was fair to all involved. I just don’t want to see what happens when Gabe is no longer president of the company…
I’m in a similar position with WoW, but it’s tied to my friends, my guild, and I genuinely like playing it. So far I’ve found no rock solid way to play WoW on linux or I’d be done with Windows entirely.
https://lutris.net/games/world-of-warcraft/
Wow is one of the more community-supported games. I had battlenet and D3 working just fine. Grab Lutris and follow these instructions, you should be good. There are a lot of guides that show you how to get addons working, as well.
It runs just as fine as on Windows. Last I heard, the only thing that doesn’t work is raytracing. So unless that’s a deal-breaker for you, you should have no trouble running it.
I installed lutris on bazzite without any problems. Curseforge runs as an appimage. It was incredibly easy and I’m getting great performance.
I think the only issue I had was mouse passthrough, which was just a checkbox in the wine config.
Thanks man, I’ll look into it! Last I looked there are a few broken bits but it might be ironed out by now.
I have played wow on linux since vanilla. Maybe we can help you? These days you can just open lutris and type battle.net and hit install. honestly it is dead simple and my FPS i better in linux than the same hardware in windows.
[edit]And now I see this was already answered. By bad. Long day today…
Is there a specific gaming distro this works best for? I’ve heard Bazzite thrown around, but then Mint would be the easier transition? Does Lutris run in the window manager like KDE plasma?
I think the problem for me is knowing just enough to know I don’t know shit about how to do this 😅
It would probably be the most point and click on one of the gaming-centric immutable distros. I think nobara is basically a shell for gaming that just happens to have a linux kernel so that might be a good one.
I, myself, am old… And I use standard distros due to ancient muscle memory and shell scripts from the age of dinosaurs. Usually debian based. Right now I’m on PopOS for my daily driver and really digging it.
Lutris is a GUI app with normal point and click interface. So even on a ‘normal’ distro I think it may be like 6 clicks to get the battle.net client installed, and then inside bnet you can install wow or hearthstone (and probably the others, but I can’t vouch directly) just as you did in windows.
Lutris will even give you a nice little bnet icon if you want :)
Its good to have multiple confirmations anyway. I only know from what I’ve heard and seen that it works, you actually know it works from experience.
Welcome to the dark side. Steamdeck also got me onto Linux fully around Fall 2022 and I’ve never looked back. Glad you’re here!!
Congrats and welcome.
Thank you. It only took 18 years to come back to it, lol. But Linux fascinates me, tbh. It felt really strange at first, but after about a year it feels like home.
Linux is just the gateway drug to DotA :p
I did try to get into DotA once, but trying to queue in for a game at early levels is a hell of a long wait. I might pick up Smite again. Though I think Smite 2 is out or coming out soon?
Have you tried Deadlock? Coming from Dota2 I found it pretty easy to get into even though it is FPS.
Really? I’m pretty crappy at dota and I get games in about five minutes longer if I want to play carry
I haven’t tried in a long time, tbh. And I think I tried DotA 2, so that may have been the problem…
Oh I was talking about dota2 I just refer to it as dota
Ahh, I’ll have to give it another try. My first attempt was years and years back. I was trying out different MOBAs at the time, like Heroes of the Storm and Heroes of Newerth.
Both fun games. I mean all mobas have a fatal flaw in that people get kind of toxic in them, but ya I basically switched to Linux once I saw dota worked on it.
I use neovim a lot for coding.
Over time though I discovered it had tonnes of amazing features as a prose editor too, so many powerful plugins for editing prose that blew me away.
Stuff like “warn me if I use tthe same word too much” and whatnot.
And of course telescopes fuzzy find made jumping around to edit my text way faster, and being able to bulk change stuff with a simple
:%s/.../.../g
feels real good.I highly recommend folks try out nvim for this use case :3
Neovim is my poison of choice, as well. I never thought to use it like that, though! Even though its not open source, I can’t stop using Obsidian for notes and prose, unfortunately. I just like it too much. But my novels are all written through novelWriter, which is an amazing application and has a package for every distro, afaik (Fedora was the last, but it was just added 3 weeks ago).
Once I got so used to all my custom keybinds in neovim, it became hard to use anything else.
I’m used to tools like Harpoon for fast jumping around “bookmarked” spots in my code, once i started using the same technique for my writing it’s like something clicked for me, I was like “holy shit I can arbitrarily jump to spots so fast now…”
I started out customizing my Neovim shortcuts, too, since my keyboard layout is set to Dvorak, but after realizing that I’d have to do that for everything that used Vim shortcuts I forced myself to get used to the defaults. I used to use Vimium, a browser extension/addon that incorporated Vim shortcuts into your browsing. You don’t even need to touch the mouse. You just hit “f” and bring up letters by links and type the letters to go to them. “Shift-f” would bring up link letters that open in a new tab. j and k scroll up and down. Things like that.
Eventually, I moved to Qutebrowser instead; a browser that comes built in with vim-like commands. O will bring up “:open -t” for new tab. Lowercase will bring up :open which would open in the same tab. You can make quickmarks, too, which allow for custom site abbrevations. So I hit “o” and type lmy to go to Lemmy now. It’s quite a nice browser. Open source and runs on QT-Webengine. You can use Vim commands, too. :q will quit, of course, but :wq will quit while saving your open tabs. It’s actually really smooth and has built in dark mode for websites. :Ss will take you to the huge settings list, but you can opt for python config (or hybrid config) as well. You can use brave-adblock, python-adblock or both and add your own adblock lists in.
There’s a cheatsheet for it here.
I’m going off topic now (I love Qutebrowser), but I decided not to change the shortcuts because there are so many applications that use Vim commands that it would take forever to change them all. I recently went back to my old custom shortcuts and found that I hated them.
It’s not the exact same (a 1:1 replacement) but have you looked at Logseq as an alternative to Obsidian. It is open source and serves a lot of the same needs as a wiki-style editor, but may not be exactly what you need in Obsidian
I did. I checked out a lot of MD note takers, including Si Yuan, Logseq, and Joplin. But I always miss my plugins and CSS snippets. I think I’d have to take a look at Neovim for notes, honestly. It’s insanely malleable and probably has even more plugins than Obsidian.
Proud of you, chief, it’s hard to do that kick the addictions
CoD remains the only reason I have Windows (LTSC, on a different drive from Mint).The day someone else makes something that’s CoD Zombies but good (Sker Ritual was… Not), I’ll ditch it. Until then I’m stuck enjoying the occasional custom map release that’s worth a fuck and dealing with Actiblizz :(
That’s another hard one to kick. I never played, myself, but I remember Counter-Strike was huge when I was in school. The after school CS LAN parties in the computer lab were huge. A lost era now. But before that was CoD LAN parties.
I went to them, but usually just to get the massive music libraries people had up for share. I think a friend of mine had almost 60gb in music and that was back when ~100gb HDDs were some of the largest you could get… Luckily I had frankenstein’d the first 100gb drive from my mom’s old PC and put it in mine, so I managed to get it all. I think I still have the music on my old E-Machines. I should probably get it.
Whoa, I went off track down memory lane. Sorry about that, lol.
I started using linux exactly for preventing myself to install again that shitty game that league is. Honestly, with all the money I sank in it I could have bought my computer upgrades way earlier…
Yeah, I hear you there. I have pretty much every Brand and Vlad skin and a skin or two for almost all champs. I have so much blue dust that I’ll never need to buy a champ again even if I never broke down anything from now on.
The itch to play hits hard every now and then, but its getting less and less. Especially now that every new champ is just 2-3 different champs sewn together.
Its a disease and I’m glad I’m out of it. Now if I could stop blowing cash on PoE MTX…
We here in the Apple Garden know that Apple takes all our usage data and trust then that they are used anonymously. But Apple has no access to data when it is encrypted, they even warn you when you encrypt your data that you need to safe the keys yourself, they can only delete everything if you lose them.
I was in a similar situation, but I got a MacBook M1 for literally everything but PC exclusive gaming, and I kept my gaming rig dual booting windows (on the HDD) and Pop!_OS (boots automatically, saved on SSD).
Why did I get a MacBook? I just wanted it. I‘d probably throw SteamOS on the gaming rig one day and use steam-link with an Ethernet cable to stream the games to the MacBook.
And yes, Linux is really easy to use nowadays. I’ve been thinking of throwing a lightweight distro onto my parents laptop. They only use Firefox so they won’t even notice it lol
I have a friend who does dev work and swears by Apple, but he does use Linux on the side as his main machine. Ever thought of diving into NixOS? I’ve used it for a few months and really enjoyed it once I could read and write nixlang.
I don’t dev that much, but apparently it can run reproducible environments for nearly every OS and you can have multiple environments via flakes. Need one for Golang? Need one for React? It can do it. You can even access it from your mac. I don’t know much about that side of it, though, just that it can.
My main systems are all Linux, except for my music production MacBook Pro. The experience on an M3 Mac is just flawless.
I always say the same thing. Use the right tool for the job, and for music, an Apple silicone system is currently unbeatable.
Pretty sure it’s possible to play LoL on linux…
It used to be. Riot added a kernel-level anti cheat called Vanguard. Almost a year ago now I think? But yeah, that shut down League of Linux and it will remain that way unless Microsoft stops allowing kernel access, which they hinted at but I’m not holding my breath for it.
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