In exchange for the resettling of Palestinians, the administration would potentially release to Libya billions of dollars of funds that the U.S. froze more than a decade ago, those three people said.

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    Whether you “believe” it or not is irrelevant. It was her position as stated publicly multiple times. That problem is yours, not hers.

    In the end though, the desire to “save” Gaza will result in the extermination of Gaza because you simply wouldn’t listen. Good jorb!

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      If the dems had not known they could count on their base for being cowards, they might have considered the electoral implication of bombing civilians.

      For what it worth i don’t even think you’re an asshole. You have been propagandized. Deprogram yourself man idk

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        Weapons shipments aren’t part of the deal, as I said, she repeatedly called for a cease fire, a hostage release, and a two-state solution.

        Israel has the right to defend itself from repeated attacks by Iran, we will continue supplying weapons to do that, what Israel chooses to do with those supplies is on them, not us.

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      Whether you “believe” it or not is irrelevant. It was her position as stated publicly multiple times. That problem is yours, not hers.

      biden said the exact same shit while shoveling weapons at netanyahu. there was no daylight between biden and harris on this issue.

      In the end though, the desire to “save” Gaza will result in the extermination of Gaza because you simply wouldn’t listen.

      democrats wouldn’t listen to the people who didn’t want genocide. we were too insignificant to listen to.

      So we’re too insignificant to blame. But blaming anyone else might require the party to abandon the only policy it has actually stood for in the past 40 years.

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            4 consecutive months. Cease fire, hostage release, two state solution. Everything the anti-Genocide people wanted.

            “Buh buh wE dOnT bElIeVe YoU!!!11!11”

            And so we get Mr. “Do it faster, it’s making you look bad.”

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              Cease fire, hostage release, two state solution.

              Everything biden said while selling weapons for genocide.

              The ONLY thing harris had to say was that she would put conditions, ANY conditions on selling weapons to netanyahu.

              There was and remains no difference whatsoever between biden and harris on Gaza. Everything the pro-genocide centrists wanted. And there has never been and never will be another kind of centrist.

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                Biden was NEVER selling weapons for genocide.

                Biden believes, correctly, that Israel has the right to defend itself from repeated attacks by Iran, we will continue supplying weapons to do that, what Israel chooses to do with those supplies is on them, not us.

                Should Biden have cut the supply when Israel proved to be a bad actor? Absolutely, but that doesn’t change the fact that Israel, as a soverign nation, has the right to defend itself and the US will 100% support that as we always have.

                What they are doing in Gaza is not defensive, it’s absolutely offensive in every sense of the word, but that’s on Israel, not Biden.

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                  Biden was NEVER selling weapons for genocide.

                  Are you saying that biden didn’t sell them weapons? Because he did. Are you saying that they weren’t committing genocide? Because they were and still are. Are you saying that he didn’t know? Even a decrepit pudding-brained mummy like biden couldn’t help but know that the weapons he was selling were being used for an ongoing genocide.

                  Biden believes, correctly, that Israel has the right to defend itself from repeated attacks by Iran, we will continue supplying weapons to do that, what Israel chooses to do with those supplies is on them, not us.

                  When it’s obvious that they’re using them to commit genocide, it’s selling weapons for genocide. Full stop.

                  Should Biden have cut the supply when Israel proved to be a bad actor?

                  “Bad actor”? They are committing genocide. Why are you downplaying it?

                  Absolutely, but that doesn’t change the fact that Israel, as a soverign nation, has the right to defend itself and the US will 100% support that as we always have.

                  We are also a sovereign nation and have no obligation to provide weapons for any purpose, let alone providing weapons that we know will be used to commit genocide. They’re not using them for defense. They are using them to murder children.

                  What they are doing in Gaza is not defensive, it’s absolutely offensive in every sense of the word

                  The word you keep refusing to say is genocide.

                  but that’s on Israel, not Biden.

                  biden chose to sell weapons that everyone knew were going to be used to commit genocide. No amount of downplaying or denial or apologia will ever change that.

                  Biden. Sold. Weapons. For. Genocide. Anything contrary to this is a goddamned lie.