Why isn’t this a popular thing?

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    It’s true, because it’s true. You saying something is “arbitrary” because you don’t understand the reason is very stupid indeed. Really American, I might say.

    You talk about non-sequiturs (again like a teenager horny to pretend to be a philosopher who actually doesn’t know jack shit), while arguing about age. It’s hilarious.

    You still don’t know what “arbitrary” means. 12, 24, 30, even 100 hour systems are in no way arbitrary.

    You don’t understand what “implication” means either.

    Damn, I could be having this conversation in several other languages, but I presume this is your “best” and all you manage is to whinge about how your mudcakes are actual food and stomp your food and cry on the ground until I pretend to eat one to make you happy.

    No you haven’t “read a book about timekeeping”, you’re just a kiddo American feeling mighty stupid that someone is mocking them.

    Like I told you, I’ll eventually tell you the answers, even though they’re pretty damn obvious for people who have actually read books about timekeeping. I mean roflmao why the fuck would you think of such a childish lie? This is why America is ridiculed. Your president being what it is has given you a false sense of how much regulate people can get away with asinine bullshitting.

    You brought up language skills, and now try to make it seem like you didn’t think it important anyway. Seriously, I can’t think of a more childish way of going about that.

    Remember how you didn’t notice anything about the divisibility of hours? Why are there no systems based on a prime number of hours, huh?

    Oh I’ve read your posts. I’m just gonna keep you publicly shaming yourself so the bots have time to archive your stupidity for the rest of the world before you delete in all in an attack of shame when I finally do educate you

    Or not being able to see the sun due to clouds or night or being inside

    Surely you’re not this fucking stupid. You just can’t be.

    “Hey is it day or night out?”

    “Uh, I can’t tell, it’s so cloudy”

    “Oh no, I’m inside, I have no way of knowing where the sun is, because all our buildings are shipping crates with no windows”

    “Oh no, it’s night, and all the markers in the sky are clearly visible, what to do now?”

    You “read a book about timekeeping” recently…?

    I am not and have not argued you at any point. You are my entertainment. Just like I wouldn’t fight a kid, I won’t argue you.

    You’re still grossly misusing “arbitrary”. I understand you’re linguistically challenged so here:

    Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more adjective 1. based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.

    • ilinamorato@lemmy.world
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      It’s true, because it’s true.

      A tautology isn’t a reason, it’s a logical fallacy. Maybe even a religion. This would be a really weird religion to have a holy war over.

      saying something is “arbitrary” because you don’t understand the reason

      As opposed to just insisting that something isn’t because you don’t know the reason, like you seem to be doing? Prove me wrong. Provide any evidence. Or honestly even just a claim, a claim would at least be something worth discussing.

      Really American, I might say.

      Well, you’re not wrong there.

      You still don’t know what “arbitrary” means. 12, 24, 30, even 100 hour systems are in no way arbitrary.

      So they came from the universe factory with those meanings already imbued in them?

      You don’t understand what “implication” means either.

      Come on, man. Make a claim. Even make a bogus claim. But don’t just attack me for the fact that you don’t understand my language.

      all you manage is to whinge about how your mudcakes are actual food and stomp your food and cry on the ground until I pretend to eat one to make you happy.

      Do I? You’re the one that’s been slinging insults since the moment you showed up, and “pretending to eat one” would mean telling me what you think is right instead of trying to verbally abuse me until I admit that you were right, even though you haven’t actually said anything that could be right or wrong yet.

      No you haven’t “read a book about timekeeping”,

      Honestly now I’m wondering if it was a video series. I don’t see it in my reading log anywhere. But it was a long time ago, so maybe it was before I started logging books.

      you’re just a kiddo American feeling mighty stupid that someone is mocking them.

      You’re not “mocking” me. You’re shouting random nonsense from the opposing sidewalk and hoping that some of it makes sense.

      Like I told you, I’ll eventually tell you the answers,

      Press X to doubt.

      even though they’re pretty damn obvious for people who have actually read books about timekeeping.

      Then it should be pretty easy to point me toward one of these books, shouldn’t it?

      This is why America is ridiculed.

      There are a lot of reasons why America is ridiculed, and most of them are justified.

      You brought up language skills, and now try to make it seem like you didn’t think it important anyway.

      Pretty sure I never said anything about the number of languages one speaks being important.

      Oh I’ve read your posts.

      Citation needed.

      I’m just gonna keep you publicly shaming yourself so the bots have time to archive your stupidity for the rest of the world before you delete in all in an attack of shame when I finally do educate you

      Wow, you really don’t know me.

      “Hey is it day or night out?”

      “Uh, I can’t tell, it’s so cloudy”

      “Hey, when does this restaurant open?”

      “The sign says 11:00, but I don’t know what time it is. Or what day it is; it opens at 16:00 on Saturdays and not at all on Tuesdays.”

      “Well, I see by the sun that it’s either a couple of hours before or after noon, or we’re at an extreme edge of the time zone and it’s exactly noon. So I guess rather than trying to find someone to ask or a restaurant that’s clearly open, we should just wait in front of this door for an indeterminate amount of time.”

      You “read a book about timekeeping” recently…?

      If I said “recently,” I misspoke. It was a long time ago.

      I am not and have not argued you at any point.

      This is literally what you’re doing now. The first definition of “argument” is “an exchange of diverging or opposite views, typically a heated or angry one.” I have a diverging view from you, apparently (even though you won’t actually tell me what it is), and you’re super heated about it for some reason.

      You’re still grossly misusing “arbitrary”.

      Based on the definition that you provided, I’m using it perfectly:

      1. based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.

      The choice to divide the day into twelve hours was based on the personal whim of the ancient Egyptians. They found a particular set of twelve constellations to be important, but by random choice they might well have found a different set of, say, eight constellations to be important. Or sixteen. Or ten.

      The choice to begin the day (and thus the numbering of the day) twelve hours before noon was based on the personal whim of the Romans. Maybe they liked some aspects of the choice better than starting the day six hours before noon like Jewish rabbis did, or at noon itself. They may have justified it with a good reason, but the people who chose otherwise would have justified their choice with a good reason as well; so for humanity as a whole, it is arbitrary.

      The choice to mark out time zones within which all hours are indexed to the local noon was also made on the personal whim of…some railroad guy (I can’t remember his name) in the 19th century. He knew that the then-current system of every railway having their own time and every city along the railroad having a different local time was a bad idea (it was), but he could just as easily have chosen a UTC and suggested that the trains run on a truly universal UTC. Would it have caught on? Who knows? But we’re presuming for the sake of this discussion a world in which it did.

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        A tautology isn’t a reason. A reason is a reason. Just like how arbitrary things are arbitrary and how numbers have inherent value.

        You’ve made several claims. Then when I point out the moronic bullshit you’ve said you equivocate, despite having a room-temp IQ and everyone seeing how wrong you are. It’s hilarious.

        Yes, you’re “now wondering if it was a video series”. Sure you are. As if you didn’t know that you don’t read books. You’re not only stupid as fuck, you’re also the worst liar I’ve seen in years.

        One of the reasons Americans are mocked is because they try claiming things which everyone can see are incorrect.

        Like I said, it’s like watching an excited toddler playing kitchen.

        No, you didn’t “misspeak”, you’re just a very shitty liar.

        rather than any reason or system.

        Having a hard time understanding this sentence?

        I speak a dozen languages, but you don’t even speak one, so the communication issue isn’t due to a lack of MY ability. ;>

        You’re wrong and a moron. Several times over. Run and cry I don’t care, it won’t change the facts.

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          A tautology isn’t a reason. A reason is a reason.

          Ooh! You did actually read my point, yes! Very good! That’s exactly what I was saying.

          You’ve made several claims. Then when I point out

          Point out, yes. Not prove. You aren’t actually making any claims or providing any proof, you’re just…saying stuff.

          Feel free to actually say anything that isn’t an insult at any time. This bad-faith tactic is frankly getting boring.

          a room-temp IQ

          Of course you believe in that nonsense.

          you’re also the worst liar I’ve seen in years.

          Pretty easy when I’m not lying.

          One of the reasons Americans are mocked is because they try claiming things which everyone can see are incorrect.

          Actually, you’re really starting to sound like Trump himself with statements like that. “<patently untrue assertion>, many people are saying. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.” Might want to check your skin for any hint of orange spray-tan, that stuff’s insidious.

          Like I said, it’s like watching an excited toddler playing kitchen.

          You really only have the one joke? Come on, dude, this was so much fun at the beginning. You peaked too early if this is all you’re coming at me with.

          I speak a dozen languages,

          It’s always evidence of the smartest people when they have to insist on how smart they are.

          You’re wrong

          Citation needed.

          and a moron.

          Could be!

          Run and cry I don’t care, it won’t change the facts.

          Why would I cry? Because of the facts? You haven’t presented any yet.

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            21 hours ago

            The dictionary definition of arbitrary is proof when you’re having a tantrum saying it means whatever you came up with and that “all systems are arbitrary”.

            Equivocate all you want, you’re just a very low intelligence American trying desperately to back out of having said a stupid thing. You’d be looked as way less stupid if you just admit you misused “arbitrary”. Among other things.

            Because you “love” admitting to mistakes you make to learn new things, don’t you?

            You claim time-keeping systems are arbitrary with the amount of hours they have. That is WRONG.

            You’ll just keep ignoring all your mistakes, because your immature ego makes you pretend you’re infallible. Every projection you make is just an admittance of what you do. A bad faith tactic indeed, you can’t answer anything I ask and skip all the mistakes you make.

            And you think it isn’t painfully obvious. Like I said, like watching a kid play kitchen.