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      Yeah but according to the current legal definition, looking at the evidence, I can confidently claim it’s a genocide

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        No, not according to the current definition. That is why Ireland is trying to change it. Words change all the time so it is possible.

        That would equate Gaza and Ukraine with the Holocaust, Rwanda, Cambodia, the nature and magnitude of which were very different. Perhaps they could create a new word for those?

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          equate Gaza and Ukraine with

          Huh? Gaza and Ukraine are completely different conflicts. Ukraine is a military invasion, Gaza is a genocide.

          No, not according to the current definition

          Can you post the current definition? I’m happy to argue about that, because i do maintain that it’s a genocide in the case of Gaza because there’s a manifest intent to eliminate an entire people, unlike the case of Ukraine.

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            Gaza and Ukraine are completely different conflicts.

            Am just passing on what Ireland is doing.

            Ireland will not be asserting if genocide is being committed, but asserting its interpretation of the Genocide Convention.

            This is the same approach taken by Ireland in the Ukraine v Russia case.

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            The current definition of Genocide is set out in Article II of the Genocide Convention:

            Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
            (a) Killing members of the group;
            (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
            © Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated
            to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
            (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
            (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

            To constitute genocide, it also needs to be established that the victims are deliberately targeted — not randomly — because of their real or perceived membership of one of the four groups protected under the Convention. This means that the target of destruction must be the group, as such, or even a part of it, but not its members as individuals.

            https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/Genocide Convention-FactSheet-ENG.pdf