Specifically that you have gone out of your way to defend feminism and express disdain for anyone that isn’t all on board with feminism or sees feminists as often being obstacles to dealing with men’s issues and then use the CCMF shelter as your first example of the services available. CCMF (and their parent org CAFE) who have been criticized, challenged, etc at basically every step until fairly recently and that nearly exclusively by those doing so under the banner of feminism.
Those are regarding their men’s help center that predates the shelter.
There’s a feminist blogger they quote in that second article with lines like: “I think they work really hard to discredit the feminist movement and to kind of take back a lot of the gains that women have made” and “They’re basically an anti-feminist organization and they’re kind of masquerading this as ‘oh well, it’s just for disenfranchised men’ when they kind of have an ulterior agenda.” Do those statements sound similar to things that have been said in this thread? Including I believe by you?
Going further back their parent organization CAFE got it’s first taste of both trying to touch on men’s issues and also being protested by feminists when they tried to do a series of talks on men’s issues in 2012 at University of Toronto. Here’s a video of the first such talk, so you can see the kind of thing they were protesting (warning: this is the entire talk so it’s two and a half hours long): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6w1S8yrFz4
Where is the irony?
Specifically that you have gone out of your way to defend feminism and express disdain for anyone that isn’t all on board with feminism or sees feminists as often being obstacles to dealing with men’s issues and then use the CCMF shelter as your first example of the services available. CCMF (and their parent org CAFE) who have been criticized, challenged, etc at basically every step until fairly recently and that nearly exclusively by those doing so under the banner of feminism.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/controversial-mens-help-centre-opens-in-toronto-183022931.html https://globalnews.ca/news/1676642/controversial-centre-for-men-opens-in-toronto-amid-criticism/
Those are regarding their men’s help center that predates the shelter.
There’s a feminist blogger they quote in that second article with lines like: “I think they work really hard to discredit the feminist movement and to kind of take back a lot of the gains that women have made” and “They’re basically an anti-feminist organization and they’re kind of masquerading this as ‘oh well, it’s just for disenfranchised men’ when they kind of have an ulterior agenda.” Do those statements sound similar to things that have been said in this thread? Including I believe by you?
Going further back their parent organization CAFE got it’s first taste of both trying to touch on men’s issues and also being protested by feminists when they tried to do a series of talks on men’s issues in 2012 at University of Toronto. Here’s a video of the first such talk, so you can see the kind of thing they were protesting (warning: this is the entire talk so it’s two and a half hours long): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6w1S8yrFz4
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