In a republic, representatives in power are elected by the general populace. Their decisions represent the will of the citizenry.
Hamas was freely elected by the people of Gaza in 2006. Their actions did and continue to represent the will of the citizenry. If they didn’t, they would not still be in positions of elected authority.
So, in a war of aggression by a democratic state, voting age adults are just as responsible for the actions of their country as the combatants they indirectly sent to harm others.
Gazan adults are either fighting Hamas, or they support Hamas. And I haven’t read ANYTHING about Gazans against Hamas taking up arms to free their country from that elected group.
That means that you are personally liable for the 1 Million dead civilians from our unconstitutional war in the middle east.
Using this logic you are fair game for a terrorist attack, and would deserve it.
50% of the population was not born yet during the most recent election where Hamas gained power (16 years ago)
Stop parroting this bullshit and think for yourself
I AM responsible. This is how democracy works. You are responsible for your own governance. Why don’t you think for yourself? You can’t vote for your government to kill others, and take zero responsibility.
And the people who didn’t vote for the government? People who voted for the opposition but didn’t win, are they innocent?
Yes, they are innocent. They did not consent to what their elected government is doing, assuming the actions being taken are from representatives they did not vote for.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election
Hamas got 44% of the vote
Fatah literally fought Hamas for the Gaza strip. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gaza_(2007) they lost. But they really really tried
So I think this paints a picture of a population divided. So all the people under 18 are innocent, we agree on that. And 66% of the adults are also innocent.
That’s a lot of innocent people dying right now in the Gaza strip.
I don’t disagree. Airstrikes and intelligence on where to put them can only be so reliable.
So edgy. Hand yourself over to Al-Qaeda or ISIS since you are responsible. I will buy your plane ticket for you.
Nope, just because I’m part of a wide, very diluted group collectively responsible doesn’t mean I think I am wrong. I am happy for voting representatives into power who used military force against Al-Qaida and ISIS. Fuck them.
This is a super simple view of the conflict.
They elected them in 2006. So there hasn’t been an election in almost 20 years.
This is a stupid position to take imo.
Germans voted for the Nazi party to take power. And guess what? Germans supported that party, even after that party they chose to put into power suspended elections. If you elect a government that suspends elections, you’re still responsible for electing that government. You put them there: you and your fellow citizens gave consent.
Taking your same logic, every citizen of every country is responsible for whatever that country does. That means all of the grievances the people of Gaza have are the responsibility of every citizen of Israel.
Your advocating the doctrine of Total war. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_war
Lots of civilians die in Total war. On both sides. Using this logic everyone’s going to die
No, every voting eligible citizen in a democratically elected government is responsible for a war of aggression. They are giving consent to the war of aggression. That is how democracy works: you the citizen decide your own governance, and you are not magically absolved of responsibility for the actions of the government you elected.
Okay, by that logic, the vast majority of the people in the Gaza strip are innocent. The last election was in 2004. The vast majority of people in Gaza are under 18.
Yes, those people are innocent. I have no qualms with that.
In a republic, representatives in power are elected by the general populace. Their decisions represent the will of the citizenry.
Are you 12?
No, I am a voter. Do you know how government works? Are you 12?
