- The Marvels (Disney/Marvel)
- Budget: $219.8 million
- Box office: $206.1 million
- Net loss: -$237 million
- The Flash (Warner Bros./DC)
- Budget: $220 million
- Box office: $271.3 million
- Net loss: -$155 million
- Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney/Lucasfilm)
- Budget: $387 million
- Box office: $384 million
- Net loss: -$143 million
- Wish (Disney)
- Budget: $200 million
- Box office: $254.9 million
- Net loss: -$131 million
- Haunted Mansion (Disney)
- Budget: $150 million
- Box office: $147.5 million
- Net loss: -$117 million
Xmen is a great example, there are men, women, and everyone in between, just like real life. When there’s an only alpha macho team, it feels like The Expendables movie… similarly, an all female cast, seems equally forced.
Another great example is Star Trek, I love Strange New Worlds, there’s an episode where they are all forced to sing and it’s so, so good. It was amazingly executed, wonderfully hilarious, the press praised it. Star Trek has an all ethnically encompassing roster of binary, non-binary human and extraterrestrial characters alike, orders of magnitude in comparison to The Marvels, and I haven’t even thought about questioning any of it. In fact I just realized this now, when writing this reply.
I agree with you on the pacing, and I believe it may have to do with that. Like there’s no build up, not enough justification as to why are we seeing what’s on screen. I think this may be why I believe there’s pandering, because it’s all unjustified. The scene in Endgame would be unthinkable in Xmen, why would they group up by gender? It’s crazy if you think about it.
Quantumania is so bad on so many levels, I don’t know where to start. Eternals is so bland and forgettable, I feel bad for the cast, most are very good actors. I didn’t know anything about what you mention, but I didn’t find it pandering. It was just weak on all fronts.
I absolutely agree on this:
This is why I keep watching bad Marvel movies after another 🤣
Regarding this:
First of all, you did not. It was 100% my fault for using a word I didn’t really understand it’s meaning. And I learned that and much more about Marvel, thanks to you. I really appreciate that you paused to look beyond the first post and tried to understand. You’re awesome, and I’m glad there are people like you on Lemmy. Thanks a lot for taking the time to discuss and enrich my English and Marvel knowledge.