Seen a lot of posts on Lemmy with vegan-adjacent sentiments but the comments are typically very critical of vegan ideas, even when they don’t come from vegans themselves. Why is this topic in particular so polarising on the internet? Especially since unlike politics for example, it seems like people don’t really get upset by it IRL
No one likes being criticized and labeled a monster by an ignorant prick. They way too frequently act like every egg comes from a half zombie chicken that’s kept in a little box and tortured just for fun, or that a cow couldn’t possibly end up in a cheeseburger after living its best life. Factory farming is bad for lots of reasons, but it’s not characteristic of the entire industry.
If you want to eat meat or dairy or whatever, sure go ahead. But don’t expect it not coming from factory farms, because it’s likely not.
TIL the eggs from my backyard chickens might be from a factory farm
That is very nice! But most people don’t have their backyard chickens. What I mean is that many people think the meat they buy at the supermarket is not from factory farms. Sadly, most of it is. Like it is litterally characteristic for the industry to come back to your comment. Of course not 100%, but very close.
https://ourworldindata.org/how-many-animals-are-factory-farmed
Most isn’t all and that’s the point. You can be concerned about the ethical treatment of animals without going full vegan, you’ll just need to pay more attention and money at the grocery store to support the right products.
I don’t want to get philosophical on the first part of this comment, but the second part is sadly just wrong. Paying attention and spending more money most often doesn’t change a bit - at least where I’m shopping. Maybe the animals have a little more space on their factories and their feeding uses slightly less land, water etc.
But this is a very important point for many vegans: It is a way to critique and boycott a very shitty system that doesn’t allow for any good choices.
What percentage of meat and dairy comes from non-factory farms and how many people are actually buying from those places? If factory farms produce something like 95% of the meat sold, can we then call it characteristic of the industry?
I can go in my fridge right now and pull fresh farm eggs and meat.
Local animals that are treated wonderfully until they’re killed, and even then it’s a cleaner and better death than most of us will end up having.
Whole life spent living in an open field, have a barn to go in when it rains, free food, now that I think of it these animals have a better life than most people I know.
By god, that’s horrible to realize.
We really need to focus on bringing down factory farms and cities.
They both treat their subjects the same fucking way and we just let it happen.
No smarter than the fucking cows, we all just need to spread out into towns and villages.
Bring back manufacturing jobs, 1 factory per town could probably support the local economy, all the secondary places like gas stations, restaurants, barbers, grocery stores, bars, etc…
Plus once we all spread out all the towns would have a little bit of everything from the cities and maybe I could finally get a good Italian joint around here.
My choices are imo’s and the little pretentious place downtown that college kids parents go to when they are in town.
I may be a little extra myself though, I’m moving to a town of 400 a few miles away because I think the town of 20,000 people is way too crowded.
So YMMV I guess
Also my next plan is to move from that town into a house out in the woods where I can’t even see my neighbors.
I never quite realized how much I hate you all, never mind you guys all move into cities and leave me more room without people.
But I stand by the village and town idea, we need to move more people into towns.
Towns are supposed to be our manufacturing backbone, with cities being the shipping and refining hubs.
We are killing all of the feeders and moving them into cities