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DevCat@lemmy.world to Political Humor@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago

Get out and vote!

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Get out and vote!

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DevCat@lemmy.world to Political Humor@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago
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  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    and here are the results of the strategy of voting for the lesser evil

    What do our findings say about democracy in America? They certainly constitute troubling news for advocates of “populistic” democracy, who want governments to respond primarily or exclusively to the policy preferences of their citizens. In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule—at least not in the causal sense of actually determining policy outcomes. When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the U.S. political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it.

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      Yes, voting for the lesser evil on its own is not enough.

      If you have more resources, you should be organizing in other ways. Spread information. Building other power structures. And voting for the lesser evil.

      If you don’t have resources to spare, just vote for the lesser evil. It will give the people who are able to change the system more time. At the vary least, it might give some people a couple more days to enjoy life.

      Just because something won’t solve the problem doesn’t mean it doesn’t help.

      Don’t give up! They want you to give up and roll over. They might get what they want. I can’t predict the future. But let’s win, or make them work for it. Don’t just give them what they want.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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        Building alternative power structures, mutual aid networks, and unionizing are precisely the things people should be focusing on. People should study at what labour organization looked like at the start of the 20th century to see what real political leverage looks like. Voting on its own doesn’t accomplish much of anything, and as the study shows the end up getting their way vast majority of the time.

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        You know what helps as far as voting goes? Not voting for the entrched parties. Every vote they get, keeps their position more secure. Do other stuff. But when it comes to voting do not give them ANY support. Best is voting for someone closest to your ideals, second best is not voting, actively detrimental is voting either R or D.

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          In a first passed the post voting system, there will always be only two candidates that matter. 3rd party candidates do exist but every vote you give to them instead of the lesser evil ultimately removes a vote against the grater evil.

          This is basic voting strategy. It sucks that the system works this way, but reality sucks sometimes.

          Voting 3rd party to “show them” is waisting your power and playing into the desires of the current power structures. With the little power we have been given by the system, we should be using it to maximize our desired outcomes.

          The best we can do in the US currently though voting for a president is to slow the decay and allow other initiatives more time to work and give more people a chance to wake up before this power is removed from us.

          If you want more details CPG Grey does an excellent video on how this happens called Minority Rule: First Past the Post Voting https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo?si=agab-WYAn5Ro5Gs2

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            The current power structures LOVE first past the post because it means fools like you will unconditionally support them no matter what they do. If you use the only power you have at the voting booth to support the status quo, things will never ever change. Stop lying to yourself.

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              I never said those things. You should probably re-read my post. As I said, voting will only slow the decay. It won’t “fix” anything.

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                Voting for the party of Capital will not slow decay, stop lying to yourself.

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