• notanaltaccount@lemmy.world
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    We should create an online database of every single government official who enabled this cruelty (criminalizing poverty) in any capacity and make it a public website.

    If the political winds change, we.can decide what to do with it later.

    There is so much distributed culpability for this cruelty that it’s easy to just throw one’s hands up in defeat instead of recognizimg their are people who are culpable and could be held to account at some point lawfully.

  • bignate31@lemmy.world
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    Well actually you can’t die either, that’s illegal. Let me know if you find any other options and I’ll make sure they get illegal’d as well!

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      It’s fine we’ll just put people into inescapable debt and have their options be a labor camp or a comatose bio-energy source. You will of course incur medical debt for the comatose option.

  • Cyrus Draegur@lemm.ee
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    Yes. That is literally the plan.

    They want to either kill the homeless or jail them so that they can be enslaved for free labor.

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      No no my man suicide is a sin. You’re supposed to vegetate and suffer in undignified misery until you finally die -just as God has intended for your life to be

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        Modern-Day Jesus:

        So the beggar at the red light began shouting, “Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!”

        “Be quiet!” the people in the vehicle behind yelled at him.

        But he only shouted louder, “Son of David, have mercy on me!”

        When Jesus heard him, he rolled down his window and ordered that the man come near. Jesus asked him, “What do you want me to do for you?”

        “Lord,” he said, “My only want is for enough coin to eat for today!”

        And Jesus said, “If I were to give you coin, surely you would instead use it instead for drugs and alcohol. I shall not grant you this desire. Instead I shall speak unto the land that all shall know of your wicked ways and none will grant you coin again.”

        Instantly the man cried out, “If you were not to grant me this, Lord, please allow me to pass on from this world onto hell, for truly I am already living there.”

        And Jesus said, “I do not know the ways of my Father, but surely I know this: Your fate would not have fallen upon you had you followed Jesus, praising God. You have made this bed, and now it is time for you to lay in it.”

        And the light changed to green, and Jesus sped away. In the din, the beggar could not explain that he was born a disciple and had praised God since taking his first breath. And the people in the vehicle behind who saw it drove past and said, “Get a job”, and praised God this fate would surely never befall them.

  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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    Constitutional originalists and spitting on common law, name a more iconic duo.

    All originalists should have to explain why they’re doing something to Thomas Paine

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    If everything is illegal then you are already a criminal. Can’t get out of it? Commit to it! That’s already the problem with the system we have today. Stop making things worst!

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    The initial lawsuit was in a town with ~600 fewer available beds than residents. These people literally did not have anywhere else to go, and our highest court just said ‘tough shit’.

    Holy fuck, y’all.

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        I’m furious. I just read through as much as I could and asked GPT for a summary so I didn’t miss anything. It’s just about as bad as I thought.

        The court is literally arguing that they’re not criminalizing homelessness, they’re just criminalizing ‘sleeping in public’ but makes no attempt to justify that with the fact that there literally aren’t places to go. When Sotomayor tries to argue that cities should be responsible for providing adequate housing, they just hem and haw at ‘What even IS adequate? We may never know. Plus, if we give them BEDS, they’ll probably want something to keep them WARM too! That’s just too much!’

        It’s abhorrent and inhumane.

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            Potentially. If you know an attack is coming and use a blanket or pillow, yes.

            It’s only legal to sleep in public without any bedding and without a cache of personal objects nearby, because that “implies the intent to establish a temporary residence”.

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    So, in many states…

    1. Can’t be homeless.
    2. Can’t be dead on purpose (suicide’s illegal).
    3. Can’t have an abortion.
    4. Can’t marry a same-sex spouse.
    5. Can’t get healthcare if you don’t have a job, and even if you can, it’s super expensive and not likely to cover everything.

    So I guess, just make sure that you’re born well-to-do, never make any mistakes, and are a straight, cis-gender man. Really narrows things down and puts life into clear perspective.

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        Jeez. It’s sort of the worst kind of dystopic future there is.

        Concrete walls, iron bars, hard labor, and an ever increasing debt.

        Maybe I’m dumb, but how hard would it be to just not agree to work? They gonna beat you to death? Sounds better than being a slave

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          They gonna beat you to death?

          Nono, it’s much worse! They’ll torture you until you WISH they’d have beat you to death and then they’ll torture you some more!

  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    it’s such bullshit that sleeping in your vehicle is illegal, but just leaving your vehicle laying around is considerably less illegal.

    edit: legal instead of illegal, average skill issue

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    No you’ll get fined, fail to pay fines, get arrested for failing to pay fines, get sent to prison and work as a slave forever as court fines increase in perpetuity.

    Republicans want to bring slavery back wholesale and they are succeeding.

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    i mean, that’s literally what they want. they want you dead. that’s what conservatives have always wanted.

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      Conservatives don’t want you dead. They want you working (until you die) - preferably in labor camps (prisons), where you will go for sleeping outside.

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        Conservatives don’t want you dead.

        Until AI, automation and robots make us serfs completely unnecessary. Then they’ll just want us dead.

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        politicians and people in power, yes. the conservatives in general, the voters, they just hate you and want you dead.