• Soup@lemmy.cafe
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    3 months ago

    The Green Party was never to be taken seriously by anyone that knows better. It’s always been a spoiler party. This is evident in the fact that seemingly none of the Green Party candidates do jack shit three years out of every four. And when the election cycle comes. They just projectile-shit left and right depending on who’s paying.

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      Not to be taken seriously as having a chance to win is different than representing the views of a sub-group of Americans accurately.

      We see plenty of sports teams lose year after year and don’t ask why people are still fans, do we? Their values haven’t changed just because their side loses, they still believe that’s the right team to back.

      While third party votes wont make a third party candidate win the presidency, it absolutely has an effect on public opinion and discussion, evidenced by how many of these stories are coming out each day bashing third party voters.

      It seems absurd to me that democrats think third party voters will respond to attacks on their character, when the reason they wont vote democrat is because of the character democrats display.

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        3 months ago

        I don’t know how many sports teams that are taking Russian money and exist to essential fuck over the entire sport that would continue to have fans.

        Oh… and politics isn’t a fucking sport.

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          Turns out its not hard to hide the source of money, and politicians need money to run campaigns. The democrats and republicans both have their fair share of illicit donations, that’s entirely legal in America. I don’t really see your point? They all shouldn’t do it.

          Also, you seem to think the only third party is the green party, which is interesting.

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            Russia has made no secret of wanting to install Trump in the white hose. They’re paying Shill Stein to spoil the election for the democrats.

            What more do you need? I’m specifically talking about The Green Party.

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              Russia spends money on more than just the presidential race. They and their oligarchs donate to both democrats and republicans from local to federal elections.

              Israel does the same thing as well, they donate to whoever is pro-Israel, and campaign against anyone anti-Israel.

              So again, why is that a problem for the Green party but not the democrats or republicans?

              If Americans don’t want foreigners to affect their election, don’t make it legal to do so then.

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                I’ve yet to see any evidence to support the accusation that democrats are taking Russian money. Democrats also aren’t also using Trump’s lawyers in defense of accusatory cases against them.

                This whatabotism of yours is disruptive to the topic. I’m staying within the wheelhouse of the discussion. You, are not.

                If you want to discuss the corruption of ALL political parties, start a new post on it. But I’m not about entertaining people that wish to derail the conversation with bOtH siDeS rhetoric.

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                If Americans the global south don’t want foreigners Americans to affect their election, don’t make it legal to do so then.

                Does it help you see how idiotic and backwards you’re being if I switch out a few nouns in your statement?

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                  2 months ago

                  Other countries have not made it legal for outside nations to lobby in their countries. That’s an American thing.

                  What is your point again? You can turn my statement into an ad lib and call me stupid?