I really don’t get the “Bernie would have won” mentality. The biggest issues that people officially complain about when it comes to Harris is that she is ‘going to bring about socialism’. He’s actually a self described socialist flavor, and all the “moderates” who claim they are socially liberal but fiscally conservative would still let the moneyed interests win.
I voted for Sanders in the 2016 primary. In hindsight, I think he would have suffered a political wipeout somewhere between Corbyn '19 and McGovern '72. There are shit-tons of oppo that Clinton (and Biden) never used against him, stuff that supporters can explain away in theory but sounds absolutely toxic to swing voters. Combine that with Trump getting the full backing of his right-wing base, corporate America, and a not-insignificant chunk of the more craven Democrats, and it would have been a total disaster.
Many people who were going to vote for Bernie ended up voting for Trump. He most definitely would have fared better than an unlikable candidate if the DNC didn’t kneecap him.
On the other hand, many of the people that voted for Bernie only voted for him because they hated Clinton and/or the wider Dem establishment, not because they supported his policies.
Many people who were going to vote for Bernie ended up voting for Trump.
I don’t think that’s true. I don’t see how anyone who saw themselves as principled supporters of Sanders could ever vote for Trump, they’re diametrically opposed. They share nothing in common. The only people who voted that way weren’t serious to begin with.
I really don’t get the “Bernie would have won” mentality. The biggest issues that people officially complain about when it comes to Harris is that she is ‘going to bring about socialism’. He’s actually a self described socialist flavor, and all the “moderates” who claim they are socially liberal but fiscally conservative would still let the moneyed interests win.
They were going to scream socialism/communism no matter what anyways.
fucking cubans
source : I have talked to cubans
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Same. He couldn’t even win the primary but people are 100% sure he would have won the general
If they’re going to use the label anyways then we might as well run an actual socialist.
“Fiscally conservative”… The thing that socialism is!
I voted for Sanders in the 2016 primary. In hindsight, I think he would have suffered a political wipeout somewhere between Corbyn '19 and McGovern '72. There are shit-tons of oppo that Clinton (and Biden) never used against him, stuff that supporters can explain away in theory but sounds absolutely toxic to swing voters. Combine that with Trump getting the full backing of his right-wing base, corporate America, and a not-insignificant chunk of the more craven Democrats, and it would have been a total disaster.
Many people who were going to vote for Bernie ended up voting for Trump. He most definitely would have fared better than an unlikable candidate if the DNC didn’t kneecap him.
On the other hand, many of the people that voted for Bernie only voted for him because they hated Clinton and/or the wider Dem establishment, not because they supported his policies.
I don’t think that’s true. I don’t see how anyone who saw themselves as principled supporters of Sanders could ever vote for Trump, they’re diametrically opposed. They share nothing in common. The only people who voted that way weren’t serious to begin with.