• LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    B-but Gaza! I have to make a pointless defiant gesture to pretend I’m helping! Also will Doordash deliver halo polish?

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      8 hours ago

      I know someone who voted for a third party candidate I hadn’t even heard of (Claudia De La Cruz). Like man you might as well have just left it blank

      • /home/pineapplelover@lemm.ee
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        8 hours ago

        Well I’d rather vote third party than leave it blank. Blank shows you don’t care while third party says you kind of care just ignorant enough to ignore voting 3rd party only benefits Trump

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    14 hours ago

    There’s also practical benefits. As someone without children I’d really like to see more funds and attention paid to education because I’m getting really fucking sick of interacting with stupid people.

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      10 hours ago

      I’m also sick of stupid people trying to sabotage every good thing about our society.

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    There’s not even the need for empathy. If people voted for their best interest instead of the interest of the 1% we’ll be better.

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    15 hours ago

    Vote as if there weren’t two full sets of electors insulating you from the actual outcome.

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      15 hours ago

      Pretty much. You aren’t going to get a better outcome with a no-vote or a protest-vote that’s for sure.

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        This is how I feel about it. Even if you don’t think your vote will accomplish anything, do it anyway. Otherwise you’re just doing nothing.

        Do what you can to push things toward the better rather than sit and wait for it.

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    9 hours ago

    And even if you don’t have a few of the immutable things here such as the colour of your skin…

    These situations could always happen in the future. Your brother can find out he’s gay, your parents might get sick with cancer, you might fall in love with an immigrant, climate change will have an effect on you, and so on

    Not only that, but any of these could be you too. You might get mental health issues or get physically sick, you might find out something about yourself, even well into adulthood, or lose your job, or face a natural disaster, or any one billion of things that you need support for

    Humans are not evolved to be truly independent. We all need, or will need, support.

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    10 hours ago

    This is the veil of ignorance you can use when considering what a just society should be like when making decisions like voting without knowing where in that society you would be. It’s a tool to help with empathy like the opposite of fear and rage propaganda trying to make you make stupid decisions.

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      10 hours ago

      Yes. Harris may not be their strongest advocate, but Trump would be 100% okay with completely wiping them out.

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          She most certainly isn’t OK with it. She said she wants to end the war and have peace several times. She is not a sociopath, unlike Trump, so if she had the means, she would gladly stop supporting Israel with guns. Unfortunately, she does not - at the moment. Why does she not?

          Because Israel and Bibi is supporting both Democrats and Republicans in the US elections, and has been for decades (although Bibi naturally leans towards Trump recently, as a fellow autocrat and dictator-wannabe). But Israel is actually lobbying for both sides and partially financing them, as well as having a lot of media under their control that can campaign for or attack any or both of them. They arguably can influence 1-2-3% of voters to swing one way or the other. And that is enough to keep both D and R parties/candidates on their sides, as the gap between the two parties are so small, that those few percents could easily decide the election.

          So what would be a solution? If both D and R are dependent on Israel to win elections, what could be done? Well, if one side would win by a huge margin, bigger than those few percents, than they would no longer need the political support from Israel. Of, course, if this was Trump, he would still support them, because he likes other dictators and wannabe dictators, like Bibi, Putin, Orbán or Kim. They all help each other out against democratic countries.

          But if Kamala would have a commanding win, that would actually enable her to not care about Israel’s political support anymore and do the right thing: end military support for Israel and thus stop the genocide. Let’s hope that she will have this power.

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            She most certainly isn’t OK with it.

            Yet she has re-iterated her continuing support for Israel time and time again. She will do exactly as Biden is doing here, it doesn’t matter if she ‘feels bad’ about it doing it while she does it. There is no magical world where if she wins hard enough she will stop the guns, bombs, and funding genocide.

            Do not delude yourself, Trump will be worse, but Kamala is shit as well.

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              I don’t know which TV have you been watching, but you seriously have zero fucking clue about who Kamala Harris is. She specifically just vowed to do everything to reach piece in Gaza: https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-election-2024-donald-trump-rhetoric-darkens-kamala-harris-vows-gaza-peace-in-final-hours-6938437

              It’s enough to whatch a few interviews with both Trump and Kamala to know about their character and where their heart is. None of them are particularly good liars, actually their both pretty bad at it. The difference is: Trump voters don’t care at all how many lies he’s telling them, so he does it constantly. Kamala’s voters immediately start turning away from her when she’s caught/seems to be lying, so she can’t really afford to do it. It’s the classic double standard between D and R candidates on all levels.___

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      Are you gonna vote as if your cousin is Palestinian lmao

      Yes because I know the difference my vote in the presidential election will make to the situation in Gaza is zero.

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    11 hours ago

    or none of those and vote with compassion.

    compassion > empathy

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        empathy is a double edge sword, often causing more suffering than not. empathy has no morals.

        compassion is love without conditions. compassion does not require feeling what others are feeling in order to understand their suffering.

        compassion is the goal, empathy is the shitty tool that sometimes achieves the goal.

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          empathy is a double edge sword, often causing more suffering than not. empathy has no morals.

          This makes no sense. People have moral systems, empathy is often a component of that.

          compassion is love without conditions.

          No it isn’t. Compassion is about sympathy and pity, and also is without morals. Unconditional love isn’t a thing, and people can act compassionately without loving someone. It also doesn’t require understanding which is vital to resolution.

          compassion does not require feeling what others are feeling in order to understand their suffering.

          Empathy doesn’t require you to feel their suffering, but to simply understand and appreciate it.

          compassion is the goal, empathy is the shitty tool that sometimes achieves the goal.

          Not my goal, seems shitty. Empathy appears to be superior.

          Definitions:

          Compassion: sympathetic pity and concern for the sufferings or misfortunes of others.

          Empathy: the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.