There’s definitely some high-grade crafting mats on the one on the right.

The shittiest part though is how many of those crazies are running unopposed.

It would have required so much work it’d be easier just to land on the moon.

But they aren’t requiring people to follow through on the plan.

You are acting in a manner that strenghthens the party that outlaws workers unions. How is that in anyone’s interest except the bourgeois?

If you’re claiming to hold an ounce of socialist leanings and you don’t oppose the GOP, you’re an idiot. They need to be stopped before any progress can be made. Look at the GOP as cancer and the Dems as Chemotherapy. You may not feel good about the Dems, but the GOP will kill the country if left unchecked.

Supporting third parties is like trying to cure cancer with a chain letter. It achieves nothing, wastes resources, and is super annoying.

The GOP is gonna GOP.Blaming the enemy for being the enemy doesn’t change their behavior. Anyway - they’re a minority and should be easy to stop. Since the 90s, they’ve received a majority of the popular vote 1 time.

But they’ve managed to hold the White House for 14 years in that same time period and have gerrymandered the shit out of the Congressional map. Texas had a majority Democratic delegation to the US House from the Civil War until 2005.

Hiw have they achieved so much? Easy - they’re organized and put forth a unified front while the rest of us flail about chasing perfection, sabotaging and resistance, and get crushed.

Asking the GOP to stop winning is dumb. That’s their goal, and I can’t really expect them to not try and win. What I can expect is for those who oppose their policies to get their heads out of their asses and vote for the people who can stop the GOP. We can work on making the Dems better later.

Right now we’re being stabbed to death by the GOP, and instead of fighting that third-party voters are focusing on a hangnail.

Gore couldn’t do a full recount because there’s a federal deadline (first Tuesday after second weekend of December) by which the delegates must be selected so they can vote for President. That’s what Bush v Gore was about - whether or not the recount could go on past the date the electors were required to select the President. The Court ruled that the election date couldn’t be moved, so the recount couldn’t continue.

I’m saying that Nader, knowing full-well he has zero chance of winning, intentionally ran a campaign that could do nothing but harm Al Gore’s campaign and help the GOP.

The Green party did now fandango to the environment in that campaign than can ever be offset by them. They’re an environmentalist party that doomed the planet of of arrogance, stupidity, or duplicity, and I don’t care which. I blame them and anyone who voted for them for the current state of the world that they enabled with their irresponsibility.

Evil people are gonna try to be evil. When there’s an enemy at the gates we need to put aside our minor differences and work together to defeat them, not stab the other guards and let the city get overrun.

Which one?

Who is gonna end up fucking it up so bad Nintendo gets the precedent they need to shut down all emulation forever.

It never would have reached the point where it went to the Courts if Nader hadn’t run and the recounts not occurred. And the recounts that did occur likely would have turned out differently because Bush would have been further behind in the rest of the state’s numbers.

Nader gave the Court the opportunity to put their thumb on the scale.

Bush defeated Gore in Florida in the final count by 537 votes.

Nader received over 97,000 votes. Had he not been in the race, his supporters would have overwhelmingly preferred Gore to Bush. Yeah, some of them would have chosen not to vote. But even if 99%of them had stayed home, that remaining 1% would have been enough to win Gore the state in a manner that would have kept it from ever going to the Supreme Court.

The Bush administration was a horror show for the US and the world. The economic, diplomatic, environmental, and human cost of it is unimaginable, and people like you are why it happened.

The most famous Democratic Socialist who does the most for the movement and achieves the most for the country is Bernie Sanders.

Note that he runs on the Democratic ticket in order to stay relevant even though he and the party aren’t always in alignment. And when he didn’t get nominated in 2020 he threw his support behind Biden even though he could have easily run third-party. He knew that running third-party would have guaranteed a Trump victory.

Ralph Nader ran for the Green party and spoiled the vote when Al Gore - the most famous environmentalist in Washington -was running and handed the election to Bush.

The GOP doesn’t actually want Trump, but they know 100% that he’d run third party without the nomination and kill the GOP, which is why they back him.

The spoiler effect is real and, until we have a better system, running or voting third-party is political malfeasance.

They have a literal zero percent chance of winning. Hell, most aren’t even on the ballots. Therefore any effort or resources used on their campaign is waste. A vote for them is a waste because it’s impossible for them to win, and that vote could be used to support the better of the 2 major party candidates.

Highlander 2 is cocaine’s masterwork.

Magical immortality? Fuck that - now they’re aliens. And Connor is a scientist who saved the planet with a space shield. But the space shield isn’t actually necessary. And killing another alien will make him young again. And Sean Connery can be revived by yelling his name. Oh, and he can make a ball of energy from his hands to hold up a fan blade, but it’ll cost his life, I guess?

There can’t have been a single sober person involved in that production.

I prefer to cook then.

By voting for a third party you’re worse than someone who doesn’t vote, because you use resources that could be directed to literally anything else and be more effective. Taking all that third party campaign to a casino money and betting it all on a double-zero is more responsible use of the money than spending it on a campaign that will serve no purpose but wasting resources and pulling voters from a candidate that may actually win.

The only excuses to support a third party candidate are being an idiot or a bad actor intentionally trying to spoil the vote. Which one are you?

In our electoral system, a vote for a third-party is a waste, and any resources dumped into them is a bigger waste.

A socialist is going to prefer Harris over Trump, but by voting a third party instead of Democrat they’re effectively supporting Trump. When the election comes down to the wire, they’ll be the ones responsible for a second Trump term.

This has already happened. People voting for the Green party over Al Gore are the reason we got 8 years of Bush.

Yeah, but modern consoles come with as little as 512 gigs of storage.