I love the part where I predicted that the talking point of the day would change to “It’s Good, Actually, that LGBT folk and POC are going to get genocided in America”
The difference is that their statement seems appropriate to the context, your statement seems to be roping in something that does belong which makes me think that you make every argument about Israel/Palestine. Hence the comment about a single brush, since I cant imagine how else you could make this about that.
Ok, so someone says something negative about the Dems, and because you have seen other people use Isreal/Palastine as a reason for abstaining from voting, you brought it up unprovoked here. Have we come full circle to what I originally said? Can we answer my question this time around?
What’s the world like when you can paint every topic with a single brush and walk away feeling smug?
Honestly, I could have labeled the knifes and grenades better. Basically I am saying that it is silly to blame anyone other than the organization that runs the campaign as it is their job to motivate voters and they spent billions of dollars, record numbers and motivated nobody. The only people who voted were regular democrat voters and people, like me, voting on a harm reduction ideal. However now that the election is over we can clearly say that the harm reduction voter strategy for the left and dumping billions in courting the right is not a sound strategy.
Thus blame and pressure should be placed on the Dems for failing to do anything to motivate the left to vote for them, as they are the ones who run the campaign and make the strategy, are named individuals who can be pressured and moved and less effort should be expended yelling at the left for not voting as that is the strategy that has now lost two elections.
I hope that is a better explanation than the meme provided of my viewpoint on the matter.
I don’t care about the parties. Anyone who failed to offer the slightest resistance to fascism is responsible. And the rest of us get to live with this for the rest of our lives, trying to fix the unfixable.
You don’t care about the parties? So you are just letting the entire political leadership off Scott free for their failure in this election to blame random people on the internet? Big brain maneuver. Maybe you should pay attention more, care more, understand more.
Every. Human. Being. Is. Responsible. For. Opposing. Fascism.
Nothing and nobody can absolve anyone from this responsibility while they draw breath. Party leadership failed this responsibility resoundingly. As did every single eligible voter who did not oppose the fascist candidate.
Maybe you should pay attention more, care more, understand more.
Like paying attention to the fact that one candidate has been quoted about looking Hitler, encouraging increased speed and reach of genocide, has been consistently attacking LGBTQ+ people, and stated intent to dismantle democracy in favor of a dictatorship? Or, does caring what happens to the Palestinians who are going to be wiped from the West Bank or Ukrainians who are going to lose the rest of their nation and self-determination count? How about caring about my trans friends and family that are at much greater risk of death now than two weeks ago? Or maybe the women and children that will die because of the federal abortion ban that will pushed next year? Or the workers whose rights are likely to be rolled back to the times of robber barons, despite the blood, death, and hardship that previous generations put in to win these rights?
Oh. You mean caring about the desire to avoid culpability and personal responsibility that people who care about others less than their own egotistical concepts of moral purity continue to express. Sorry. I’m fresh out of that. If telling yourself that you did the right thing in shirking basic human responsibility helps you to sleep at night, great. Good for you. Will I lend aid if you need it and I’m able? Yup. But, it’s likely that I’ll never forgive nor forget.
Dems are controlled opposition
Any excuse to give yourselves a pass for banging the drum for American and Palestinian genocide, huh?
Well why not have some for oneself if it’s so good to be exported everywhere.
I love the part where I predicted that the talking point of the day would change to “It’s Good, Actually, that LGBT folk and POC are going to get genocided in America”
What’s the world like when you can paint every topic with a single brush and walk away feeling smug?
I don’t know, you should probably ask the “Dems are controlled opposition” guy.
The difference is that their statement seems appropriate to the context, your statement seems to be roping in something that does belong which makes me think that you make every argument about Israel/Palestine. Hence the comment about a single brush, since I cant imagine how else you could make this about that.
On here, Gaza was a prominent issue for advocating for abstaining from voting for Harris, especially of “BOTHSIDES” types and .ml users.
Ok, so someone says something negative about the Dems, and because you have seen other people use Isreal/Palastine as a reason for abstaining from voting, you brought it up unprovoked here. Have we come full circle to what I originally said? Can we answer my question this time around?
this doesn’t even make sense
Honestly, I could have labeled the knifes and grenades better. Basically I am saying that it is silly to blame anyone other than the organization that runs the campaign as it is their job to motivate voters and they spent billions of dollars, record numbers and motivated nobody. The only people who voted were regular democrat voters and people, like me, voting on a harm reduction ideal. However now that the election is over we can clearly say that the harm reduction voter strategy for the left and dumping billions in courting the right is not a sound strategy.
Thus blame and pressure should be placed on the Dems for failing to do anything to motivate the left to vote for them, as they are the ones who run the campaign and make the strategy, are named individuals who can be pressured and moved and less effort should be expended yelling at the left for not voting as that is the strategy that has now lost two elections.
I hope that is a better explanation than the meme provided of my viewpoint on the matter.
I don’t care about the parties. Anyone who failed to offer the slightest resistance to fascism is responsible. And the rest of us get to live with this for the rest of our lives, trying to fix the unfixable.
You don’t care about the parties? So you are just letting the entire political leadership off Scott free for their failure in this election to blame random people on the internet? Big brain maneuver. Maybe you should pay attention more, care more, understand more.
Every. Human. Being. Is. Responsible. For. Opposing. Fascism.
Nothing and nobody can absolve anyone from this responsibility while they draw breath. Party leadership failed this responsibility resoundingly. As did every single eligible voter who did not oppose the fascist candidate.
Like paying attention to the fact that one candidate has been quoted about looking Hitler, encouraging increased speed and reach of genocide, has been consistently attacking LGBTQ+ people, and stated intent to dismantle democracy in favor of a dictatorship? Or, does caring what happens to the Palestinians who are going to be wiped from the West Bank or Ukrainians who are going to lose the rest of their nation and self-determination count? How about caring about my trans friends and family that are at much greater risk of death now than two weeks ago? Or maybe the women and children that will die because of the federal abortion ban that will pushed next year? Or the workers whose rights are likely to be rolled back to the times of robber barons, despite the blood, death, and hardship that previous generations put in to win these rights?
Oh. You mean caring about the desire to avoid culpability and personal responsibility that people who care about others less than their own egotistical concepts of moral purity continue to express. Sorry. I’m fresh out of that. If telling yourself that you did the right thing in shirking basic human responsibility helps you to sleep at night, great. Good for you. Will I lend aid if you need it and I’m able? Yup. But, it’s likely that I’ll never forgive nor forget.
Thanks for taking the time to type all that out. The person you were responding to was obviously arguing in bad faith and it’s been rampant lately.
Lol. Lmao even.