• iAmTheTot@kbin.social
        1·
        10 months ago

        I don’t think you appreciate how much text you can fit into 4GB. The first entire gigabyte could be dedicated to various means of translation and explaining our language system, and you’d still have a 500 million words left after that.

  • M68040 [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    5·
    10 months ago
    This place is a message... and part of a system of messages... pay attention to it!

Sending this message was important to us. We considered (emphasis on 'considered') ourselves to be a powerful culture.

This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here.

What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us. This message is a warning about danger.

The danger is in a particular location... it increases towards a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.

The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours.

The danger is to the body, and it can kill.

The form of the danger is an species of great apes.

The danger is unleashed only if you substantially disturb this place physically. This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.
  • EphTen@lemdro.idEnglish
    4·
    10 months ago

    I would probably include an apology for using FAT32 and insist that we’ve made better filesystems since then.

    • Pantherina@feddit.de
      1·
      10 months ago

      The dimension (physical height, 5’9") of an average man (blue/white)

      Well thanks now they think we are all men

      • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        10 months ago

        It’s explained in the PDF. If they used normal numbers and letters, the chance of corruption would be high. So they had to reform into the symbols you see.

        I still don’t get why we use Pi instead of Tau though, when most equations double it up into Tau anyway.

  • HornyOnMain [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    2·
    10 months ago

    several dozen thousand copies of the original doom

    edit: checked the size of the original doom and its a lot smaller than i realised

  • asg101 [none/use name, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    2·
    10 months ago

    The warning “This species destroys anything it encounters, turn around, save yourselves, warn the universe”. With as many before and after images of destroyed habitats and extinct creatures that would fit in the rest of the 4GB space.

  • Max-P@lemmy.max-p.me
    1·
    10 months ago

    Probably an AI model that fits in that size. It might not be our best models, but it probably would be a lot more useful to aliens than whatever we’d decide to fit on 4GB.

    They’d get mostly all the inner workings of our languages and how we do conversations and generally be able to answer basic questions about humanity.

    • DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      What ? “an AI model” is not a compression algorithm. Why give the aliens an AI trained with some wikipedia articles when you could just give them wikipedia.

      • Max-P@lemmy.max-p.me
        11·
        10 months ago

        Because an LLM is more than just data: it’s like a big network of how syllables and words go together based on some context. And that’s useful because language is how we communicate, how we connect ideas together, it’s how we share stories. It’s not just Wikipedia articles, it’s a database of relationships between words and concepts. It approximates how we think as humans.

        Yes, AI is hella overhyped. Everyone wants to AI everything. But really for this particular situation, I think the model data would actually be the best precompiled database of knowledge we can possibly provide to learn about humans for the size.

        No it’s not magic compression, but 4GB worth of parameters is still a lot. GPT4All has models just under 4GB. They’re not particularly impressive compared to OpenAI’s offerings, but I think you can extract a lot more practical information to do first contact out of a basic model than 4GB worth of Wikipedia. It’s extremely lossy compression, it’s never gonna spit out articles vebatim, it will hallucinate a ton of stuff.

        If we had more space I’d send all the major AIs we have like Dall-E, LLaMa and GPT 4. Imagine you’re an alien, you’re presented with a keyboard and a monitor, and know nothing about us. You can use Dall-E to try random letters and words and see if the output makes sense. Maybe you find out what a cat, dog, bat, frog, apple looks like. You can then input those words in ChatGPT, and get context as to when those are used. What’s “a horse”? What’s “riding”? Put those into Dall-E, now you know what a “cat riding a horse” looks like. It can generate as many as you want, any combination. Eventually you can figure out how to ask ChatGPT if cats typically ride horses, cars, bycles, what do cats do.

        Now imagine you’re a very advanced alien species that can easily process the model’s parameters. You’ve just downloaded the basics of humanity. They can map their language to our model’s parameters, and basically speak to us in our language, and translate our answers to theirs, and basically have a basic conversation.

        • DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          2·
          10 months ago

          Sorry chief you haven’t really explained why an AI model would be the best format.

          It’s less dense than Wikipedia text. End of.

  • PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz
    1·
    10 months ago

    A link with a cracked Minecraft client and an ip to join to a small server to chill with that alien.

    Technically you can probably send a bunch of links, like Wikipedia etc. He “just” needs to access to it, which may or may not breach the 4GB rule.

    • JackGreenEarth@lemm.eeOP
      1·
      10 months ago

      It won’t breach the 4GB rule, but even the closest star to Sol would have at minimum latency of 4 years.

    • Joker@discuss.tchncs.de
      0·
      10 months ago

      Damn, what a cheapskate. A chance to play Minecraft with a friendly space alien and you can’t even pay for a legit copy. Probably going to give that alien a computer virus and doom us all. Don’t put this guy in charge.