I just got up from conversation with a couple of older black men, that I said “well I got to go back to work and start cracking the whip.” And it occurred to me then that it was probably a really insensitive stupid thing to say.

Sadly, it hadn’t occurred to me until it’s already said.

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    where does everyone stand on cretin? IMHO it’s medical use is obsolete afaik, so really it’s just an insult right?

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      I think medical terms like retard, mongoloid, idiot, imbecile, moron, insane, cretin, and all other words implying someone is lacking certain cognitive abilities are obsolete. Medical terms will usually include “disability” or “disorder” these days, especially now that we have more knowledge about the underlying causes of someone’s intellectual disabilities.

      I don’t think most people object to “idiot” or “dumb” despite their origins in either developmentally disordered people or mute people. It’s actually quite interesting that “idiot” remains much more acceptable than “retarded” when “idiot” was used to refer to people with the lowest IQ scales.

      It’s only a matter of time until “developmental disorder” or “special needs” becomes a slur. Every time we invent a new word for someone stupid, people will use it negatively, and the word becomes charged, unless the term is so outdated that people forget it was ever used professionally. It’s an endless game of vocabular musical chairs.

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      I think it might have originated in the Bible. Paul says in Titus‬ ‭1:12‭-‬13‬ ‭NIV‬‬

      "One of Crete’s own prophets has said it: ‘Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.’ This saying is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith.

      I always found it comical that Paul, the great apostle, endorsed this stereotype of the people of Crete.

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          10 months ago

          Isn’t it somebody that experienced an iodine deficiency in childhood. There’s a particular look, he doesn’t have it.

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          10 months ago

          He’s wealthy, or at least he’s treated as such most of the time, so the word you’re looking for is eccentric.

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            10 months ago

            No, shitbag, fuckwit and narcissistic treason douche are all more appropriate than eccentric.

            being rich doesn’t mean you can’t be a fuckwit, and he’s proven it time and again.