Max moved under braking multiple times, passed off track, ran into Norris not once but twice in the same corner, left the track maintaining his position, pushed Norris off track on the straight after the collision, then weaved and blocked Norris on the racing line on the following corner after it was clear he had a puncture.

Norris was overly optimistic going into a corner once and gave the position back.

But yeah, let’s go ahead and treat both of their behaviors as the same… /sarcasm

“Heads I win, tails you lose.”

I think if Russel had more experience with Alonso’s shenanigans he wouldn’t have crashed. But I don’t think Russell is the only driver in the field that would have reacted poorly there, so I have trouble blaming him for the outcome.

I say this as someone who doesn’t particularly like or dislike him (medium talent + medium personality).

It absolutely is, can and has been penalized, and is consistent with my point… So what are you trying to say?

Russell would have not made it back to the pits and would still be DNF.

I know all of the Alonso fans are in a tizzy over this, but it was an appropriate penalty.

Everyone upset seems to be buying the line that he was taking the corner slower to get a better exit. That would be late apexing. When you do that, you brake LATER and turn into the corner LATER (at a sharper angle), then apply throttle EARLIER. Alonso’s actions are inconsistent with an intent to get a better exit.

He broke earlier. Then he sped up. He entered the corner on the usual line with extra traction available. Then he jabbed the brakes mid corner. If he had taken the corner at normal speeds, that would have absolutely upset the car, so this was PLANNED. Immediately after jabbing the brakes he is back on throttle and accelerating out of the corner.

I believe his intention was to force Russel to react to his behavior, then accelerate away while Russell reacts to him braking, to build an extra bit of gap to neutralize the drs advantage.

This was absolutely a brake check. Alonso has done this many times before, and he usually gets away with it because it is on the line or he has a plausible excuse for his actions. This time he screwed up and took it over the line.

You know his intentions here because he was immediately on the radio making up an excuse for his actions. Except that excused didn’t jive with the telemetry so he had to give the stewards a DIFFERENT excuse which still isn’t plausible (see late apex above).

This penalty isn’t punishing him for driving defensively. It won’t result in drivers getting penalties for parking their car on the apex. This penalty was about erratic driving that compromises the safety of other cars and drivers on the track. The outcome here is direct evidence of the safety concern.

As much as you may not like Russel or question his skills, ask yourself what would have happened to other drivers in this situation? I would argue 2/3 of the other drivers would have bottled it the same way he did.

Lookup how vsc works again. No passing allowed. No racing allowed. Cars must reduce speed and prepare to stop. Cars must maintain deltas.

Once the vsc came out the race results were frozen.

Getting back on full throttle then hitting the brakes a second time mid corner is what got him in trouble. The early braking denotes the erratic behavior was intentional instead of accidental.

The penalty wasn’t about being slow, it was about being erratic. This was effectively the same as weaving, except it was with the brake and throttle instead of the steering wheel.

The cars still all have to travel back to the pit lane for a red flag; they don’t just stop where they are in the track. It was the last lap, the only difference between vsc and a red flag is the trip down pit lane.

Collective punishment is a war crime.

Avocado toast or peanut butter toast. I guess technically there is some sort of cooking involved there but it is minimal…

In a normal functioning political party he wouldn’t. But the Republican party is more like the cult of Trump right now than a political party, so… 🙁

That guy is essential the head of the Republican party, which controls half of Congress and holds a majority of seats on the Supreme Court. When he says jump all of the other Republicans ask how high, while they all try to figure out ways to 1up each other to please him.

So when he speaks, he indicates what he wants to happen which telegraphs actions of all of his sicophants. So if he says “torpedo the border bill” it gets canned. If he says IDGAF about NATO, you can be sure China and Russia see an opening they can exploit.

Just like every basement is a hamas bunker and every sewer is a hamas tunnel.

They also won’t be able to tell you if Microsoft has plans to deport you to Mars.

Jokes on you – I’m still using the last TV I bought in 2005. It has 2 HDMI ports and supports 1080i!

Agree no difference as an ingredient in some baked dish.

But if you are eating the egg by itself or as the primary item, there is definitely a difference in taste. Not a revolutionary change your life difference, but still a difference.

In my experience the difference is pretty small amongst the options in the grocery store, but fairly noticable for eggs I get from the farmers market.

There are three sides to this conflict, not 2.

Saw one the other day with Jennifer Anniston. Good enough that it took a second to realize it was deep fake audio and video.