Agreed. The need for all kinds of mens-groups is probably higher than it has ever been. I’d love something where I could join a group of men and build / fix something together.
Independent thinker valuing discussions grounded in reason, not emotions.
Open to reconsider my views in light of good-faith counter-arguments but also willing to defend what’s right, even when it’s unpopular. My goal is to engage in dialogue that seeks truth rather than scoring points.
Agreed. The need for all kinds of mens-groups is probably higher than it has ever been. I’d love something where I could join a group of men and build / fix something together.
Free will, the sense, that you could have done otherwise, is an illusion.
We make choices based on either what we have to do, or what we want to do. There’s no freedom in having to do something, but you’re also not free to choose your wants. If you felt like having tea this morning instead of coffee, then having tea is the only thing you could have done. You wanted tea, not coffee. Now, if we rewind the clock back in time to the moment before you decided, you’d pick tea again, and again, and again. Everything else being the same, your desire for tea will override the desire for coffee every time. And you didn’t choose that desire.
Did anyone stop to ask themselves if we even would want to watch AI videos?
Of course not.
Shitty AI videos? No. Good ones? Sure.
My motivation here is only to probe on what other people really think of when using that word, so that I know what they really mean by it
That makes sense. In my mind the definition never really evolved as I tend to take words literally and think of it more as a category, like “red heads” rather than as an ideological group. I guess that would technically make them a subgroup of incels.
But the term itself implies the former
I’m sure that’s true in some cases, but I wouldn’t generalize it as the explanation for most incel’s situations that they simply had too unrealistic standards
Maybe they should be called far-incels
Your typical incel is that quiet guy in school with bad skin, plain clothes, and oily hair, whose only friends were the other outcasts. Like everyone else, they just wanted a normal relationship with a normal woman. It’s the repeated failure to form those relationships that leads to the resentment and anger we now see. They weren’t always like that. The bitterness and hatred is a coping mechanism for their situation, not the cause of it.
I think you’re being a bit unfair there. These attitudes often stem from their inability to form relationships. The struggle came first, and the resentment followed. They aren’t without sex and relationships because they’re inherently hateful people; rather, the hatred emerges from prolonged frustration and rejection.
In most cases, I believe the inability to get into relationships is less about character and more about factors like social awkwardness, lack of friends, poor hygiene, unfortunate genetics, spending too much time online or gaming, etc.
Were I complaining?
I don’t think that’s fair. It’s not just sex they are after; they want a relationship but are unable to get into one.
I asked chatGPT to extract the question from that as I struggled to pinpoint it myself. I’ll put it here as I’m probably not the only one wondering. So it seems like what OP is asking is (correct me if I’m wrong):
How do you adjust or change your beliefs (about capitalism, communism, libertarianism, or other ideologies) to deal with the fact that some people or countries naturally have more advantages than others?
Nothing wrong with asking as long as you’re also willing to accept no as an answer. If you’re going to attack them for refusing, then it wasn’t really a question in the first place but rather a demand masked as one.
Also, I’m not sure if this is the correct community to ask this.
Depends on which definition you go by, I guess. I prefer the literal meaning of the word; involuntary celibate. A person who is celibate against their own will.
Well not really. Those are different things. Black pill is about how you think, while incel is about what you are.
I’m glad they do as that’s the only way I access those platforms. Same applies for twitter. Using an app means I can’t block ads.
I wore a beanie this morning as it was quite chilly outside.
Yesterday I wore a helmet while riding my bike. Not sure if that counts as a hat.
Perfect, just in time to stop Russia from meddling with the 2016 election!
Great, now Putin will have absolutely no way whatsoever to spread his propaganda on Facebook!
I really struggle to see the point of these comments. It’s a valid criticism to say it should’ve been done sooner or they should’ve done more, but doing something is better than doing nothing and also better late than never. So what are these commentors trying to achieve here other than applause and upvotes? This is one of the things my autistic brain has a hard time figuring out about social media. Is it just to say what’s popular so people come and pat you on the back?
You think the white supermacists would vote Kamala / Hillary / Biden rather than Kanye?
Another one of Trump’s core demographics is the religious christians too, despite Trump not having a religious bone in his body.