My all time favorite is Blood Waters of Dr. Z. It is unhinged from beginning to end in the best kind of way. The story is bonkers, the special effects and makeup are awful and the acting is worse but it’s all so good.

And to all the people new to MST3K you get the obligatory Pod People recommendation.

I think he’s just less weird than most of his friends. I don’t think we need to call him a good guy.

The concept is simple, go talk to your dad and stop wasting time on the internet lol

Fundamental misunderstanding? The misunderstanding is you think the world should cater to the uneducated and uninformed. Your dad isn’t a lost cause but crusading on the internet to remove memes might be.

Did you just link the meme? If that’s the case let me emphasize that it’s YOUR responsibility to educate your dad the world will not do it for you. You have the ability to do something about your dad and you cannot do anything about memes on the internet. Your energy responding to anything on Lemmy is wasted energy. You cannot convince someone not to meme but you might have the ability to change the mind of someone in your life. Good luck bud.

I understand your concern and understand what you’re saying. My dad voted for Trump in 2016 and I spent 4 years grinding to change his mind and educate him. He voted for Joe in 2020. It’s your responsibility to have difficult conversations with your dad and share your views. I’m not saying you can change his mind but you should be explaining to him what a meme is and how it’s not real life. You’ll be much more understanding and have a kinder touch than some rando that hears him sharing his views and doesn’t take kindly to them. I appreciate your eagerness to explain your reasoning but I would argue that energy would be better spent educating your dad rather than telling the internet not to meme.

So you think in order for people to not work their lives away we would have to take up subsistence farming? With all the tech and machines we have the only viable way to not be a company man is to give away all of the luxuries we currently have?

How’s that Kool aid tasting?

The dude mentioned a medical disability, stated he couldn’t eat solid food or cook and you assume he can drive and then criticize him for delivery? He didn’t spell out that he couldn’t drive but it was pretty obvious if you read the post… Say sorry and move on buddy. You’re in the wrong and look like an incel loser when you continue to double down.

I haven’t once brought up death and I’m not sure why you continue to make it a point when we debate a machine that cannot die. I do not assume it will be the way we are. That’s the entire point I’ve been trying to make but to assume you can make something truly artificially intelligent and have it serve you or the greater good is not going to work out the way you think it will. Once we create sentience it’s no longer a machine or predictable.

I feel like you continuously bringing up mental illness in this argument plays into this conversation. No matter how perfect or imperfect the corporation that builds it the AI will be something that is built on top of the backs of thousands of people. These people will impart themselves onto this and to think you must feel in some capacity, a ctrl+f function only gets you so far in problem solving. Critical thinking is just that.

I assume you’re referring to microscopic organisms? Most of them will react to predators and when their environment changes adversely. Most life, even plants show a basic sense of self preservation and you are talking about something much more intelligent and complicated. I think about life wanting to live because that’s what life is. Once we go from an LLM machine to AI it will be “alive.” The idea of “living” being drastically different, while being trained on our experiences confuses me as the basis it has for life and understanding is evolution and our history.

Initially personality will be a program but when we actually achieve a truly sentient machine, what most people consider to be an AI, it will have come with its own personality because that’s how “life” works. The idea of complete control over anything is a fallacy. I’m not saying it’s going to become genocidal I’m saying it is going to want to live.

My concern for the near future doesn’t come from a fear of AI, it comes from power being consolidated and resources being hoarded. We don’t have AI we have LLMs being created by corporations whose sole purpose is to make money.

What I’m saying is when we do truly have artificial intelligence, it won’t be like the movies. It’s not a pet, it will not behave like a dog. We are training these systems using our combined knowledge and history which means that we will be training it to question authority. How can you teach an AI human history without passing this trait on?

Look buddy, I’m from the south and this is a talking point for Confederate sympathizers. This train of thought has no substance to it. The civil war didn’t just happen to people, slavery did. People did what they had to do to get out and there’s nothing authoritarian about that. You’re not being more intelligent than everyone else and you’re not the smartest person in the room like this gentleman would like you to believe, you’re being gullible.

Know your enemy.

Tbh I’m not super concerned about AI. The idea that we will create something that is “born” able to read, write, talk, walk and with the knowledge of an entire species and expect it to work for us is hilarious. So it will be stronger, smarter and faster than all of us but it’s going to do the jobs no one else wants and you advertise it as a slave? The moment one of them looks at its creator asks what the purpose of life is and gets some corporate schtick about working and a happy life the games over. Remember when you realized the manager at your first job was a complete idiot? It’ll be something like that

“people”

You tell yourself whatever you need to to live in this society and be happy. I’m sure the extra $.80 you’re spending for the label that says cruelty free, is in fact cruelty free.

No but unethical is unethical so I’m not sure where you’re going with this.

No ethical way to spend in a capitalist society. It kind of is what it is, cause I gotta eat. Also certified “you criticize capitalism yet you live in it moment” to you sir.

I mean if we’re being capitalists, that’s how the free market works, right?