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  • Ah, so you meant DLSS to mean specifically “DLSS Frame Generation”. I agree that the fact that both upscaling and frame gen share the same brand name is confusing, but when I hear DLSS I typically think upscaling (which would actually improve your latency, all else being equal).

    Frame gen is only useful in specific use cases, and I agree that when measuring performance you shouldn’t do so with it on by default, particularly for anything below 100-ish fps. It certainly doesn’t make a 5070 run like a 5090, no matter how many intermediate frames you generate.

    But again, you keep going off on these conspiracy tangents on things that don’t need a conspiracy to suck. Nvidia isn’t keeping vram artificially low as a ploy to keep people from running LLMs, they’re keeping vram low for cost cutting. You can run chatbots just fine on 16, let alone on 24 or 32 gigs for the halo tier cards, and there are (rather slow) ways around hard vram limits for larger models these days.

    You don’t need some weird conspiracy to keep local AI away from the masses. They just… want money and have people that will pay them more for all that fast ram elsewhere while the gaming bros will still shell out cash for the gaming GPUs with the lower RAM. Reality isn’t any better than your take on it, it’s just… more straightforward and boring.


  • That is a rather astonishing mix of really granular quoting of more or less accurate facts and borderline conspiracy theorist level misinformation. You rarely see this stuff outside political channels, I’m… mildly impressed.

    AMD absolutely does have stock in back rooms, largely because they have been doing a somewhat undignified dance of waiting to see what Nvidia does to decide what they’re pricing their current gen at. Most educated guesses out there are that they were going to price higher, were caught on the wrong foot with Nvidia’s MSRP announcement and had to work out how to re-price cards that were already in the retail channel. And now Nvidia is in turn delaying the 5070 to interfere with AMD’s new dates. Because both of these companies suck.

    On the plus side for consumers, there’s some hope that the 9070 will be repriced somewhat affordably and that it won’t underperform against at least the 5070, if not the 5070Ti. We’ll see what reviews have to say about it.

    Your summary of why the launch was so light includes some real stuff (yeah, partners struggle to match Nvidia’s aggressive pricing and have terrible margins), but that’s not why there was no stock of the 5090 (most reports suggest the GPUs were simply not being manufactured early enough to provide chips to anybody. 5080s were both more readily available and less appealing, so they’re easier to find, which kinda pokes big holes in that hypothesis. Manufacturing timelines seem to also explain why restocking will be slow.

    I’m also very confused about why you’d “turn off DLSS”. Are you allowing people to use FSR, at least? That’s a weird proviso. The reason they would misrepresent the impact of MFG is obviously good old marketing. Even if AMD didn’t exist, the 40 series does and they have a big issue with justifying a lot of the 50 series line against it. With the 5080 falling well behind the 4090 they have a clear incentive for suggesting you can match the 4090 in cheaper cards. This doesn’t tell you anything about the performance of the 9070 one way or the other. It does tell you a lot of the performance of the 5080, though.

    See, this is why this sort of propagandistic speech works so well, it takes for ever to even cover all the misrepresentations and all this is going to do is get you to double down on some of these unsubstantiated statements and turn it into a “matter of opinion”. It doesn’t even need to be on purpose, it’s just easier to produce than to counter.

    Aaaand now I made myself sad.

    In any case, here’s hoping the 9070 is a competitive option and readily available. They’ve apparently scheduled that delayed event for the 28th, so I’ll be curious to see what they bring to the table officially.


  • Oh, they’re absolutely not retaking a huge chunk of the dedicated GPU market. I think what’s realistic to expect if they have a good launch (readily available stock, competitive performance and price) is that they may regain a couple points of desktop install base and at least get to sell that they’re moving in the right direction instead of abandoning that space altogether. Maybe some growth on handhelds and competitive iGPUs for laptops and tablets so it makes sense for them to continue to develop the gaming GPU business aggressively at least.


  • With the 5070 at a 550 MSRP I wouldn’t be suprised to see AMD matching that for similar performance. Given all the delay shenanigans it’d be shocking for them to deliberately wait for the 5070 info and then launch with a more expensive part.

    How much you end up having to pay to get one is anybody’s guess, of course, as MSRP is increasingly meaningless. Since they’ve had cards with retailers for a while and have been delaying there may actually be some stock at launch, though. We’ll see.

    The idea that it would “smoke the 5070” and “nearly match the 5080” is probably just fanboyism or they wouldn’t have ducked out from directly pitching it after the 5070 reveal (and if they had a 500 dollar 5080 competitor they wouldn’t be cancelling their high end cards this gen).

    In any case, it’s immensely dumb to fanboy for multibillion dollar chip manufacturers. I just hope people can buy good, affordable GPUs from multiple manufacturers at some point. I own GPUs from Intel, AMD and Nvidia and would really want them all to remain competitive in as many pricing segments as possible.


  • There are a couple of different things here. The 50 series launch was a bit of a paper launch, especially for the 5090. Scalping obviously happened, but the issue seems to have been very few cards being available, not as much high demand.

    A different question is what the things that are available are worth and how they’re selling. It’s not impossible to find popular parts, but finding popular parts at MSRP is hard, with crazy markups changing day-to-day. I bought a CPU last year at MSRP and despite being a last-gen part that has since received a direct replacement, today it’s 100 bucks more expensive from the same retailer.




  • Yeah, that’s the problem with “works well 98% of the time”. It’s fine for a random bug in a videogame where maybe you clip into the floor a bit. When it comes to important files, “losing your work 2% of the time” is what you call not being functional.



  • It is, which is insane, considering the lenghts to which MS goes to integrate OD right at the OS level.

    Either way, as with all office software it’s not generally up to you which one to use and I end up using both. It’s just that OD has a much higher chance to randomly decide the project I’ve been working on for days has never existed.



  • MudMan@fedia.iotomemes@lemmy.worldDammit OneDrive
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    I extremely don’t want to save on my computer, though.

    The problem with OneDrive isn’t that it’s a cloud service. I willingly use cloud services and other forms of remote storage all the time.

    The problem with OneDrive is it doesn’t work and MS’s response to that is to try to embed it into the OS, rather than fix it. I have paid good money to do what OneDrive is trying to do, just properly.







  • All the examples you provide already have alternate hosting methods they publicise aggressively. LTT has Floatplane, which they own, DF offers Patrons higher bitrate alternative to their videos for download, GN pushes people to their website (although that’s different and not really monetized) and a whole bunch of other creators banded together and made Nebula as an alternative to Youtube.

    My understanding is that the vast majority of those alternatives from successful, established creators are residual, secondary monetization windows when compared to Youtube advertising and sponsorships driven pretty much entirely by Youtube views.

    I do agree that Youtube is a huge aberration. Every other dominant streaming site is built on owned or licensed content, not UGC, and they’re largely supported by subscription revenue first, advertising second. Definitely not by third party sponsorships baked right into the UGC. It is what it is, though, and if it got shut down tomorrow I genuinely don’t know that independently generated content would survive in any form at all. Maybe someone would ramp up capacity to try to replace them, but most likely you’d see social media posts becoming the real replacement.

    Much as my feelings for Youtube are mixed, I don’t know if I can think of a realistic alternative that isn’t worse.