There’s nothing wrong with insulting intelligence.
I was pointing out how it’s funny to make basic grammatical errors while doing so.
Tankies are fucking idiots.
Excellent contribution to the discourse.
It did not contain any misinformation, just basic facts about what was happening in Ukraine in 2014 - Euromaidan, separatist movements, far right consolidation, etc. Things reported on constantly by mainstream Western press for 8 years. There is at least one overzealous mod that is removing my comments, comments that contain no misinformation, and with no requests for clarification or any actual challenge to what I said.
Feel free to ask me this question on a less censorious instance.
Fall for what? Correction on a meme and pointing to basic political history in Ukraine?
Seems right to me
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So let me get this straight… Your position is that instead of being a pawn of the Democrats who are at least pushing back against Israel
That is not what is happening. It is the exact opposite: Democratic politicians presided over and supported this genocide with near-unanimous agreemeny with one another. Israel, again, receives unconditional material and diplomatic support from the Biden-Harris regime.
I think I was clear on this, so you are really juat revealing your own lack of familiarity.
I should instead be a pawn of the Republicans
Am I telling you to use Republicans’ thought-terminating clichés? Am I telling you to vote for Republicans as if they are a lesser evil?
Maybe you should ask me more about what I am saying because you are taking serious liberties.
Israel knows if they just cut loose, they would face repercussions from the rest of the world,
Israel already cut loose. They are ethnically cleansing Gaza, reinvading and bombing parts of the West Bank, invadjng and bombing entire neighborhoods in Lebanon, and trying to pick a fight with Iran. The “rest of the world” is nearly unanimously against Israel on paper, with the process held up by the US and some of its lapdogs, though of course Europe also wants in on the imperialist action.
You are already seeing what the rest of the world can do when Israel cuts loose. It is shamefully little, but we should also take inspiration from those who do stand up. From the Palestinian resistance. From allied grouos in Syria and Iraq. From Iran. From Hezbollah. From Yemen. And from South Africa for doing nearly all of the work re: the ICJ.
The US is the dominant superpower and it supports Israel to the hilt. Work to undermine it so that the scakes can be tipped.
What do you think will happen to Palestine as a country
Palestine is not internationally recognized as a country. Palestine is an invaded and occupied regikn, with its people facing settler colonial genocide by ethnic supremacists.
if Trump succeeds in removing all the guardrails
What guardrails? Again, Isrsel has unconditional material support from the US. They recently murdered an American in thr West Bank and the US is giving is the “investigation pending” slow walk. None of “the rules”, even the unwritten American exceptionalist ones, apply.
and gets to fulfill his wet dream of being a dictator?
lol that’s not going to happen. I will bet you any amount of money.
Why yes, I do. That’s why I asked in a sassy way.
Literally what are you talking about
Palestine already faces an Israel with full material support from the US. Dems just feign concern about it and tell you they are going to look into it and hey look a bird! The “worse” would simply be a continuation of the status quo but withouy a veneer of respectability to bring Dem voters on board.
Your position is neither moral nor strategic. Morally, I don’t think anyone should need to be told to not tolerate genocide, let alone normalize it, let alone support those committing it. The moral question is not really up for discussion. Strategically, well, there is nothing strategic about individuals telling each other to tolerate anything and everything, including genocide, and to guarantee your votes with no demands. That’s just being a good pawn for the Democratic Party that, with incentives provided through your consent, would rather lose than reverse course on genocide. You are essentially making yourself a political non-entity.
Please go and actually do something worthwhile to help people and stop letting genocidal ghouls control your political thoughts.
Liberals are scratched
Sounds like you just can’t defend your own comment. You’re all talk when it’s time to call people names but this is your entire response to me? lmao
I hope you can someday have the courage of your convictions, “anti-authoritarian”.
Don’t forget the material basis for these shifts! While The Discourse of “practical” truangulating centrists tends to show this rightward path, it is because (1) they were already fundamentally reactionary, they tend to just use this logic as an excuse for why they tolerate far-right positions, and (2) the right is supported by the ruling class to address some of the “problems” it creates, like a marginalized underclass that wants enough income to feed their children, housing, and safety from violence.
The shift right is not driven simply by debate or ideology, but by the arenas where degradation in material conditions due to capitalism meet the ruling class’ need to deflect blame to the marginalized (who they can reap larger profits from) to placate the less marginalized. Racism, nationalism, and extermination campaigns are created and maintained for the interests of capital, with the common people being pushed and prodded to fall in line with repeating the (usually ad hoc) new or recycled scapegoats and underclassrs. Wouldn’t want you to point blame in the right direction!
This is a bad faith meme that represents anyone making any form of compromise as a rude
They’re not depicted as rude, they’re depicted as an know-it-all eager compromiser that ends up working for the forces of reaction because they have no real principles or red lines.
close-minded
That is generally the attitude of “centrists” and people that go out of the way to congratulate themselves on “being practical” by triamgulating. If they were open to actual principles they eould no longer be triangulating on them, and triangulating is their primary commitment.
genocide supporter
Like virtually every Democratic member of Congress and both of their presidential candidates? Anyone tolerating that is indeed complicit. It does not require any mental gymnastics to acknowledge this.
posted by an account that frequently posts pro-China
No!!! I almost passed out when I read that. You’re telling me there are good aspects of a designated enemy of empire!? Impossible.
Open-minded btw.
sometimes pro-Russia propaganda
Not another designated enemy!!! I almost died when I read this.
and hops between Western country-focused lemmy’s pending election cycles.
Is this supposed to imply something bad about them?
Car sales on the RF are up something like 50% over last year and last year had relatively normal numbers.
The RF’s central bankers keep trying to tank their economy but it isn’t working because of all the direct investment required to offset sanctions. They are maxing out debt costs, basically, trying the neoliberal “fighting inflation” strategy that does the exact opposite most of the time. It makes them precarious economically despite how well they’re doing but for a very different reason than “sanctions are working”. If they kicked out their neoliberals it would be smooth sailing.
The genocide is already accelerated. The Biden-Harris administration already gives Israel all of the material, military, and diplomatic support they need for genociding Gaza and ramping up against the West Bank, the latter being something that has already been happening for months. And people like yourself tolerated that, accepted that from “your” candidates, and fought against those for whom it was correctly a red line.
In short, both Biden and Harris would rather lose than be anything other than 100% materially supportive of Israel’s genocide. They made that choice and y’all backed them up on it. Time to own those decisions, the decision to lose in support of genocide, and do some self-criticism around how what you subscribed to was actually neither particularly strategic nor morally sound.
Biden and Harris already openly pledge unconditional material support to Israel in its genocide, organize Europe in this same direction, and go after anyone opposing them on this. Israel receives what it materially needs to do all pf this. Any further escalation in the West Bank will be done with materials, funds, and diplomatic cover provided by the Biden-Harris administration.
Biden and Harris feign empathy and try to run little games around redefining what a ceasefire is for PR purposes. But in terms of the basic reakity of supporting Israel to do whatever it wants to Palestinians, as in providing them the means they would otherwise nit have to do it, there is no sense in which they are less bad than Trump.
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