If you’ve spent any amount of time among people who went to / are in college in their early 20s, and people who were working in their late teens and early twenties, it becomes clear that college arranges for the students to have a managed-for-them life to a degree that I actually think is severely harmful to them. It’s basically a big day care. Education is fuckin fantastic, I’m not saying it’s not, but the nature of the way your life is organized within it to me I think is very bad for people.

Like yes you know integrals, very good, but e.g. I spoke to a guy who had not paid his phone bill for months, who somehow still had phone service but was genuinely very confused about how the bills he was getting now could have gotten as high as they were. No matter how many times I tried to explain to him, I couldn’t get it across. I finally just gave up the endeavor.

You know what? I actually think the answers are almost all pretty solidly productive stuff. Like taking at face value the question and saying “hey here’s how to help the Democrats win since you asked.”

That was not what I expected. I am – for real – pretty surprised. I think I have well founded reasons for being suspicious of why you would have posted the actual “just asking questions” original post, but the answers (even the discussion from people being real critical of Biden) is fine. Has the Lemmy consensus, even on lemmy.ml, shifted that far away from “let’s not vote for Biden what’s the worst that could happen”?

Haven’t you read their messaging? They are just perfectly innocent Democrat supporters who are super concerned about Biden’s chances in the election. Also they talk about Cornel West sometimes. For some reason they are not concerned about his chances in the election; they just really like what he has to say, and they’re going to vote for him. Flawless.

It’s good to see that the propaganda accounts have learned the Fox News trick of having one person innocently ask a question so a bunch of other people can rush in and provide the answer (which is turning out to be, big shocker, that Biden is bad and we shouldn’t vote for him.) As Fox discovered, it seems a lot more organic that way instead of just having someone stand in front of the camera and say over and over “DON’T VOTE FOR BIDEN.”

I am still waiting for them to learn to make accounts that are supporting Biden but doing a terrible job of it – sort of a Lemmy version of Alan Colmes – like “I’m glad the stock market and GDP are going up so much under Biden, as a rich person I think he’s doing great with the economy and also he’s sticking it to the Palestinians which I obviously support.”

I’ve seen a little sporadic trickle of accounts with very bad semiconservative opinions and then also supporting certain Democrats, but they seem pretty chaotic and probably like authentic homegrown trolls. I think the real fake-Biden-supporting propaganda potential has yet to be unlocked. I do support this new development in innocent questions, though; it seems like it’s got some potential.

😀

Labor is strongest when it ruins the capitalist economy. That’s the fucking point. It’s a class war and the enemy is winning, we need to hit back. Make the markets scream!

I think wanting this to happen sounds great. Like I say, I agree.

Waiting for a president who will provide it before you take any political step, even if what happens while you’re waiting is that you go into a concentration camp for being queer or communist, while the genocide in Palestine actually accelerates and starts being replicated in a lot of other places across the world; I don’t think that is a good idea. Do you think that is a good idea?

Michelle Obama, why not?

I asked you a serious question. Who should win the election in November? If you were running the Democrat’s strategy, who would you nominate instead of Biden?

I feel pretty aggressive about Biden aiding and abetting genocide, supplying Israel with enough bombs to turn Gaza into a death camp.

Agreed

I feel pretty aggressive about Biden just coming out against gender affirmation surgery for minors for no fucking reason.

Sure

I’m also still feeling pretty fucking aggressive that he broke the railroad strike, but that was years ago so you probably forgot about it.

He strengthened the NLRB for the first time since any president that I can remember to the point where it’s backstopping all this historic union progress at Starbucks, UAW, Amazon, all this shit that union people are fighting for finally has some legal backing behind it which is a pretty key force multiplier which in my book is a win.

He did break the rail strike, because it would have fucked up the economy for everyone in ways that led to inflation that actually was sort of his fault, and given how incredibly aggressive everyone is about blaming him for inflation that wasn’t his fault, I don’t think that’s trivial. And, his labor dept. kept working the issue afterwards and got the workers the sick days they were striking for anyway, when there was nothing for him in it.

I realize that the rail strike is a pretty good talking point, because I actually sort of agree with you that in a perfect world he should have let the strike happen and fuck up the rail companies and if the price of bread goes up then oh well treat your workers better America. But trying to extrapolate from that to that he’s a bad labor president when on every non economy ruining strike he’s been 100% on the side of the workers which is incredibly rare for a US president, I think is unfair.

But at least it’s something I can shove in your fucking face so maybe you’ll pressure the Democratic Party to replace their nominee.

Who would you want them to replace him with? If you don’t want Trump, then I think it’s fair to ask what is the course you would want to chart instead of Biden?

I actually have an answer in mind that I like, far more realistic than some that I’ve heard, but I’m curious what your solution would be.

Biden and his blue MAGA cult.

Fascinating

Throw some Costco Ghirardelli brownie mix in a mug

Add a little milk and stir

Microwave for roughly 45 seconds, until it starts bubbling, then quickly stop

Throw some vanilla ice cream on top

Eat it up with a glass of milk on the side

Fuckin delightful man

I have yet to meet IRL a single left-wing politically engaged person who says anything other than that Trump will be such an objectively guaranteed catastrophe for everyone in the world that we should vote for whoever’s running against him, whether that person is Biden or Kamala Harris or a blind dog dressed up in a business suit. All the people who say Biden’s old and so they can’t vote for him are fairly un-politically-aware types who aren’t especially left wing in their personal beliefs.

And yet the internet is full of these super left wing people who feel real aggressive about not voting for Biden, like even more aggressively about that, apparently, than they do about any particular left wing cause, about immigration or going to the Palestine protest or what have you.

It is curious

That part, I won’t say you are wrong about. The American electorate is wrong enough in how they set their priorities that I think Biden’s performance at the debate was a massive problem.

What I am saying here is that it’s weird that the stories are “why Trump’s felonies are not important” and “why Biden’s elderly nature is hugely important,” when the data points the exact opposite way. Honestly, I think maybe people’s understanding of what is important in politics may be quite a few ticks ahead of the media is giving them credit for when they publish stories like this.

1. I’m as surprised as anybody, but the non loaded-to-elicit-a-particular-answer framing of the question showed basically no change after the debate. Polls from the day after the election which asked, who do you want to vote for for president, showed basically no change in the answer (respectively, 45/43 for Trump, and 45/44 for Biden). I will continue to be surprised if that keeps happening but definitely that’s how it actually objectively happened, so far.
2. It is highly notable to me how unanimous in the media is the narrative “Biden’s in trouble because he fucked up the debate” - which, however much of a very real problem it is that he’s old as fuck, isn’t borne out by polling data - whereas they didn’t write too much about “Trump’s in trouble because he caught a bunch of felonies”, even though that was reflected in a few percentage points’ drop in his polling (remember? that was when Biden started ticking higher than Trump in national polls every now and then, which he’s still doing, which he hadn’t been able to do before?). As a good example check out this lapdog bullshit

It seems very clear to me that the media is, as they often do, pretending that they are reporting on trouble for the Democratic candidate, when actually what they are doing is finding a way to frame a legitimate story to do their best to create the trouble that are pretending they are reporting on.

GPT-4 generally doesn’t need fine tuning or anything no

100% right; unless you are using it a ton the API pricing is likely to be cheaper

You’re going to think I am joking but I am not. Multiple people have sworn to me that this works for a common failure mode of HDD drives and I’ve literally never heard someone say they tried it and it failed. I’ve never tried it. Buyer beware. Don’t blame me if you fuck up your drive / your computer it’s connected to / anything else even worse by doing this:

1. Stick it in the freezer for a short while.
2. Take it out.
3. Boot it up.
4. If it works, get all the data off it as quick as you can.

GPT4all can do it pretty easily on a desktop with a good GPU. I think it’s unlikely that anything can run locally on your phone (LLMs are notably hogs in terms of even pretty capable desktop PC resources; there’s just not a cheap way to do them). You could use colab or something via your phone, and there is probably a little howto guide somewhere that shows how to do a Mistral setup on colab. It’ll take some technical skill though.

You might just bite the bullet and do $20/mo for the GPT-4 subscription also. It can also do web searches, I think, although in practice it’s pretty clunky the times it’s tried to do things like that for me. I’m not aware of one that does the “search the web for answers and get back to me” thing really all that perfectly or smoothly I’m sad to say.

GPT-4 is apparently the model to beat. I haven’t seen all that much difference in practice between GPT-4 and 4o. I’ve heard various claims about various other models outperforming it (notably including Claude) but I haven’t seen the claims materialize over the long haul as yet.

I have however heard that Mistral can get quite close to GPT-4, run for free locally with the right hardware, if you build up a hand curated set of around 100 query/response pairs from GPT-4 that are what you want it to do, and then fine-tune Mistral against that training set. I haven’t tried it but that’s what I’ve heard.

Jon Stewart for president with someone central to Biden’s cabinet who actually knows about politics and the stuff Biden was doing, as VP, to be able to give him on the job training on the actual politics part to match his sharpness level and his heart

I don’t care if he doesn’t want the job

I think Biden has done great stuff (domestically 🙁) and I would expect good policies from him and obviously a dead plant would be a better president than Trump, but his debate performance is kinda hard to put a good spin on

And therefore it is clear that what the world needs to see is a Jon Stewart vs Donald Trump debate

Fixed

John Stewart

Edit: Sorry I meant his brother, Jon Stewart