Undergroundoverground hates that too

The point of capitalism is that the aristocracy hated the idea of having to work for their money, like the rest of us. So, they came up with a system so brilliant that the rest of the population had to be starved, dispossessed of their land, branded, imprisoned whipped and sent to workhouses until centuries of generational trauma knocked the fight out of them.

It was never about utopian efficiency, although it is touted to be the benefit now. The problem is, people don’t realise that the “inefficiency” they look to do away with is all the people below the top having more than just enough to live on. We have nations of workers who have been convinced that they should run their countries as if they were shareholders of it.

And they call socialists utopians.

Mid twenties teenagers with 30 year old parents.

Would you still feel that way, about the very first part, if I was to remind you that some of the Russian oligarchs were crime bosses who took power and wealth by force?

Admittedly, it doesn’t have the hereditary rule part but that, for me, would simple fall under “the difference is the passage of time.” I see it much like the difference between a cult and a religion.

“Wage slave master”?

As a British person, I had a few awkward conversations with other British people when I’ve asked them to explain the difference between a royal or a higher level aristocrat and an oligarch.

It seems to be something to do with the length of time society had to endure their bastardry. Well, it’s either that or that they’re not from the Oligar region of Russia. Its one of the two.

Thats because things like congress or a parliament are made, specifically to shield power from democracy, through the pretence of democracy. Its aristocratic rule. Although the same net result as the US, the UK is clearer showing how it works. We had a barrons revolution in 1215 and they’ve been in charge ever since. We just changed who the barrons are and what makes someone a barron.

Even the ancient greeks had that one figured out centuries ago.

The system is working exaxtly as intended.

Yeah but, if it was remotely enjoyable, then you might make 2 or maybe even 3% less profit for the lazy, workshy scroungers who own the company.

We can’t have that now can we?

I get the feeling, I really do. However, I can’t think of many things that would radicalise someone more than losing all their money or being buried under a pile of debt. Being these sorts of types, they’ll only go one way. On reflection, I’m sure you recognise the very specific and historically recognisable tinder box.

I mean, it still might not be immoral. They can all get fucked. Just, maybe not in that specific way is all im saying.

It was good. Then, they fucked it.

*ACAB, in their capacity as cops.

There might be repercussions, if we get caught though.

I mean, you can break any rule, law or agreement without facing repercussions, if you don’t get caught.

Breaking it in any way means you will likely have to pay back any money they gave you immediately.

Personally, I would consider that to be a repercussion.

I mean, who else other than your last employer would it be with?

Rule # 1 of signing an NDA: you’re not allowed to say that you signed an NDA.

Sadly, I think you hit the nail right on the head there. People don’t want complicated answers to complicated questions. As you eluded to, blaming the out-group has worked since groups existed.

Through my own fault, I think I read too deeply into the word failure lol.

If you like that, I can’t recommend “capitalist realism: is there no alternative?” enough. It where I stole it from, without a hint of shame.

Eh, I wouldn’t say its a failure of “the left.” The problem is that American style neoliberalism has become the only game in town and any minor deviation is seen as dangerous extremism. Its easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism.

Neo classical economics is simply “economics” or even worse “just basic economics” now. Every major media outlet going has been captured or compromised. Social media is bought and paid for by the same interests too. I mean, there’s some pockets of resistance here and there but the ultra wealthy control all the narratives.

To me, blaming “the left” for that and calling their resistancea failure is just bizarre. Its not like the narrative has changed or is remotely hard to comprehend. Its just that people like being told what they want to hear; that they were right all along.

They clearly prefer to be told its all those damn foreigners faults and that looking up is a waste of time.

That’s why the right hate universities. Well, that and the fact they unis will call out their BS.