Summary

The “Signalgate” scandal confirms the Trump administration’s deep disdain for Europe, viewing it not just as obsolete but actively wanting its demise.

There are 3 major implications: an inevitable trade war where Europe must unite; continued US pressure on Greenland despite European pushback; and Europe needing to support Ukraine not just without US help, but potentially against US interests.

European leaders who stand firm against US bullying are seeing rising approval ratings.

Europe should “with firmness, courage and politeness” chart its own path forward.

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    Europe is a comparative bastion of liberal democracy, hardly suprising facists dont like us

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      It’s the south, they hate that the coasts respect Europe more, and that it’s generally atheist (atheist in their mind means anything outside of evangelical southern baptists, ie the true religion).

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          Oh my sweet summer child, you just opened the door to madness.

          Southern baptists don’t…they don’t consider catholics to be Christians.

          Not ‘catholics aren’t real Christians’ or ‘catholics are heretics’, they’re not Christian at all, they’re like Mormons or Muslims.

          I have never managed to understand it, and I had a few SBC try to explain it to me, their attitude is just that it’s not real Christianity like protestantism, it’s something else, something alien.

          This is why Irish and Italians weren’t considered white for a long time too, only really white people can be Christian, because of the curse of Ham. Black people like Obama are straight Muslim, full stop.

          Feel free to go down this rabbit hole, it won’t get you anywhere good, and the sbc has been trying to quietly backpedal as best they can, but it’s still really popular among the smaller congregations, at least the ones I met.

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            Which makes it extra ironic the so-called White House faith office is pulling shit like selling $1,000 Easter miracles.

            That’s practically the old Catholic indulgences and those were literally one of the reasons for the great schism; that kind of shit is why Protestants exist to begin with THAT’S WHAT THEY WERE PROTESTING

            They have so utterly and comprehensively lost the plot and betrayed everything they claimed to stand for

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              The sbc never, ever claimed to stand for anything except being pro-slavery.

              That’s why they schismed from the triennial convention, to endorse the Curse of Ham as core dogma for God to command white men to keep black people as slaves.

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            I was dumbfounded the first time my ex-wife tried to tell me that because I was a (former) Catholic at the time, that it wasn’t actually Christianity.

            My exact words were; “Bitch please! We were the fucking original christians, what the fuck are you on about?”

            That was before we got married and I should have listened to my gut in that moment.

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              Bitch please! We were the fucking original christians

              This heretic doesn’t know about East-West schism. OG Christians are Orthodox

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                I was raised Roman Catholic and I was taught about the schism.

                However, it was framed as the Eastern Orthodox Catholics broke off from mainstream Catholicism, therefore Roman Catholics were the “original Catholics.”

                It does kind of tickle me how much the folks that taught me that, value tradition so highly that they try to rationalize this kind of thing until they once are “traditional.”

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              Southern Baptiats after schisming in order to make the Curse of Ham their dogmatic rationalization of slavery:

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            Interesting. Wild, but interesting. I consider Mormons to be Christian too, I didn’t realize it was its own thing, I thought it was just the blanket term for religions that worship Jesus.

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      Europe is a comparative bastion of liberal democracy,

      I think you mean colonialism and white supremacy.

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        As an Asian, please go fuck yourself.

        We had just as much, if not far more cruelty to our own people, for instance our caste system was really just charming.

        The British brought rule of law, sanitation and medicine, and they stopped the monstrous Muslims from genociding us every time they felt like it.

        Seems like a great trade to me.

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        Right? What is this nonsense lol. Go and tell Belgian congo about being a bastion of liberal democracy 😂😂😂