I was posting some comments on Reddit, in the “Privacy” subreddit, about better privacy options than Android or iOS—like GrapheneOS. I just received a message from the bot deleting my posts that mentioned GrapheneOS or other privacy-friendly operating systems. I accept this, since I’m not the owner of the subreddit. But with all due respect, what’s the point of having a place to discuss privacy if comments recommending great privacy-focused OS alternatives get deleted? I don’t get it.
It seems like people in that community want privacy, but apparently not enough to have an open discussion about alternatives. Sure, some people might disagree—that’s normal in any discussion! Should we stop talking about the NSA because some people support what they do? I doubt anyone would suggest that.
Am I missing something here? Maybe I just don’t understand the reasoning.
“the GrapheneOS developers do not wish to use reddit as a platform to discuss their products”
No one is making them. But they can’t prohibit others from doing so. Also the mods don’t give a fuck. What an idiotic excuse.
I have heard of drama involving Graphene OS. I just know there is some drama involving GrapheneOS, I dont know who did what or care who said what, maby its related to that?
I can’t remember any time in the last 2 years before I deleted my reddit account where a post I made didn’t get auto-moderated.
The only thing to post on reddit, is that Lemmy is better
Reddit moment
I got perma-banned and modmail-muted for talking about the rule, not the OS itself. The moderators are a bunch of absolute fucks and don’t give a single shit either. I did not break the rule, but got perma-banned. Then got perma-banned from Reddit for “ban evasion” because I messaged the moderators about my wrongful subreddit ban. My appeal was denied. Fuck em.
They’re as crazy as Musk. My whole household got permabanned because we used the same device for our accounts, and one person was suspended for some reason. They then accused us all of ban evasion and permanently banned us all.
its such shit honestly.
reddit = garbage , thats all this is
I mean it’s reddit. Example: I used to get on there from time to time, I’m fairly involved in homelessness services. Almost every time someone gets on there asking for help with food and I send them a link to food kitchens, food banks and other actual social services they can use to get themselves back on their feet, it gets pulled with an explanation of something like “well, we were just hoping for general advice not anything practical” from whatever mod removes the comment. I have some opinions on that.
It’s less to do with your comments, more to do with the platform and the specific mods
Google is a Reddit partner now, so they probably don’t want discussion of anything that removes them from the loop, thus privacy is very limited to “privacy from everyone but Google” or whatever corporate blob is currently funding Reddit. This is why Reddit is dead to me, basically it is now all about profit and communities can only exist if they contribute to that goal.
Glad I deleted my account last week.
Am I missing something here?
Yeah, it’s reddit, expect nonsense.
Nonsense on Reddit? Makes sense.
I kinda get why the GrapheneOS developers don’t want their product discussed on reddit: Imagine you’re searching for a problem with GrapheneOS and the only thing popping up is a Reddit thread. They don’t want their users having to go there as the “only” option to get their problem fixed
What I’ve seen there within the post about Graphene OS moving away from Reddit, is not wanting to be on Reddit with their own community, as the rules of the platform means that they are getting a lot of removals, blocks and things like that, so they moved their own community, but that doesn’t mean that people shouldn’t talk about graphene. That’s a huge difference, as a lot of people get to know this software reading about them on blogs, posts and Reddit. We need to encourage healthy conversations, even if we don’t agree with the topic, but removing everything… Damm
Yeah this is a based af reason for comment removal
rogue has bad reading comprehension, the rule is not only about graphene, and that’s not even what it even says about graphene
It says “GrapheneOS developers do not wish to use reddit as a platform to discuss their products”. What do you not understand about this?
you should perhaps find a little energy and read the whole message. especially the paragraph that starts with “Discussion”. because that paragraph is the rule. what do you not understand about this?
Posts from Lemmy do come up with searching, at least on DDG, so the best thing people can do is stop adding reddit at the end of a parameter and start adding lemmy
Or start adding “-site:reddit.com”. On the other hand, in some cases it kinda makes sense with SEO being basically “generate a wall of text on what should be one paragraph with 3.5 sentences”.
Unfortunately a lot of instances do not have “lemmy” in their name, which makes this web searching significantly more difficult
They don’t like platforms where they can’t censor dissent. Thats the reason they dont like Reddit.
What are you sniffing? There’s no more pro censorship platform then Reddit. Lemmy at least keeps a mod log.
You misread my comment. Try again
No, what you wrote sucks any way you slice it. You try again.
It’s a .ml user.
Oh. Right.
lol
And how do you interpret what I wrote?
Doesn’t the message you received basically say the graphene devs don’t want it discussed in /r/privacy ?
If I were involved in a project with any sort of following I wouldn’t want it discussed in a large, general, subreddit either. If it is, you either need to engage with people there to minimise any misinformation, or you just have to let people spread nonsense about your product.
That said, asking why /r/privacy exists when the devs of privacy-related projects don’t want to participate is a good question. The answer is, the mods are fief lords who would rather preside over a sham than nothing at all.
Honestly, I can’t think of any good reason to be a moderator of /r/privacy on reddit
It is funny because the post doesn’t mention that they don’t want to be discussed through Reddit or that community, in particular.
They said that they were moving away from Reddit with their own community because it was really difficult to keep it up with all the blocks, bans, and a lot of issues with the topics that they were discussing, and with users being blocked because they were using VPNs or the Tor network.
So they don’t say that they don’t want to discuss things on Reddit, they just said that they were moving away for their own community.
It is funny because freedom means that if you meet with your friends in a bar, and you want to discuss Donald Trump, as an example, does that mean that you shouldn’t talk about Trump in a bar because Trump said that he doesn’t want to be discussed in that table? (He didn’t say so I believe, it’s just a random idea)
No, you can talk about Trump because we live in a freedom world where you can talk with your friends or with colleagues or whoever you want, about the things that you want as long as you don’t hurt anyone or you don’t talk shit about that thing. Isn’t it?
Let’s talk about privacy, just not any private operating systems because there’s a sub for that, or laws that threaten privacy because there’s a sub for that, or any corporations that try to take away people’s privacy because there’s a sub for that, or our opinions on the concept of privacy because there’s a sub for that so… privacy is, uh, not having people see what you’re doing kinda.
Eh, I get the rule. On the surface, it seems stupid because the subject of rom options is pretty integral to privacy
However, discussion of roms tends to always devolve into what amounts to fanboyism at some point. You end up with a lot of “yeah, but” and “but they are/aren’t” that covers the same ground every single time, and users have to wade through the bullshit to get to anything useful.
It’s the same conversation every time, so you reach a point where it’s better to just outright ban rom/os so that other issues aren’t drowned by that.
It’s damned if you don’t damned if you do, there’s no good choice, so you make the choice that’s less hassle on average
