The butterfly effects would add up and and any zygote formed would not be the hitler-as-we-know anymore, since it would be a different combination of sperm and eggs.
Who needs guns when you got a time machine? Don’t like your highschool bully, just bump into their parents back in time. Or you know, “bump” ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) into their parents.
what does any of that have to do with anything I said? By the way, that wikepedia page doesn’t contain the word “closed” anywhere in it. just saying
A double pendulum is bound by definition! It is a fixed point, a line with a 2 axis joint, and another line. That’s the definition.
Just because a system is chaotic doesn’t mean it can move in unlimited ways. A chaotic pendulum cannot move outside it’s predefined limits of its geometry despite being chaotic.
The real world imposes far more constraints. A double pendulum starts out in a known state. It gets pushed. It moves chaotically for a minute, then returns to its original rest state.
In the context of Hitler’s parents, you shove the dad, he moves chaotically for a second, then goes back to walking. No long term change has happened.
I completely agree with what this comment says. It’s still irrelevant though. Where did I say it has to be unbounded? You are countering an argument I did not make. Whether the result is divergent or not is irrelevant. The point is that “not having a closed form solution” is not the meaning of chaos, which was your original wrong statement.
No closed form solution is one property. It’s not wrong, only incomplete. But if a system of equations had a closed form solution, it wouldn’t be called chaotic. For example any exponential equation like x^y is extremely sensitive to initial conditions yet it isn’t chaotic.
oh really?
'Robert L. Devaney, says that to classify a dynamical system as chaotic, it must have these properties:[22]
it must be sensitive to initial conditions, it must be topologically transitive, it must have dense periodic orbits. " https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory
f(x)=x^y doesn’t satisfy those 3 conditions. Nor does the paper you linked say that x^y is a chaotic equation.
That function in the paper cannot be solved for an input because of its sensitivity to initial input. He used a computer to simulate the time steps. He couldn’t immediately calculate any point on the the plot like y^x.
and again, in the definition you just pasted in there does not say anything about closed form solutions. You keep contradicting yourself in trying to die on that hill
It’s implicit in the method. There also isn’t a definition of computability in the papers or Wikipedia because it assumes you have a basic understanding.
Chaotic functions require that you iteratively step through them because they aren’t closed form.
“For chaotic systems the evolution equations always include nonlinear terms,5 which makes “closed-form” solutions of these equations impossible—roughly, a closed-form solution is a single formula that allows one to simply plug in the time of the desired prediction into the equation and determine the state of the system at that time.”
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/chaos-theory#%3A~%3Atext=For+chaotic+systems+the+evolution%2Cthe+state+of+the+system
I last wrote a paper on chaos in a mechanical system 35 years but I haven’t forgotten the basics.