• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    You haven’t provided any official figures or sources. You provided a podcast with 2 testemonials, seemingly without any backing evidence, from a British propaganda outlet. Every time you’ve provided a number, or stated a qualitative assertion, you need to provide backing evidence such as a link to a source. The fact that people have asked you over and over for sources and you haven’t provided them is only hurting your case.

    Let’s ask this another way.

    1. What do you believe is quantitatively and qualitatively happening in Xinjiang with regards to the re-education camps? Ie, what numbers, and what specifically is happening, ie mass murder, sterilization, vocational training, cultural erasure, etc?

    2. What do you think the people asking you for sources believe, or those who have given you counter-arguments?

    3. For all of the quantitative and qualitative claims you wish to make regarding section 1, provide links to sources and evidence. Ie what’s happening, and at what scale, and in what time frame.

    I think if you spend your time answering this one question accurately and to the best of your abilities, you wouldn’t feel the need to respond to each and every comment. If you can’t, then it’s okay to log off for a while and touch some grass. Do more research into the subject, and refrain from speaking on subjects you haven’t investigated enough to be able to properly answer section 1.

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        I gave you a pretty good opportunity to gather your thoughts, evidence, and as clearly as possible and in no uncertain terms explain your position. Are you sure you want to toss that away?

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          if you don’t like my clear answers, facts or sources, you aren’t going to be very happy with any further responses, which will use the same clear answers, facts and sources.

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            If you provide your strongest and clearest stances in a single, well-sourced comment, then we can have a conversation. I haven’t been able to find a clear and well-sourced answer to your questions, if you don’t want to provide them, then just say that.

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              it’s okay, I’ve already had this conversation with everybody else in the thread like five times, haha.

              if you don’t like my clear answers, facts or sources, you’re not going to be satisfied with my responses anyway.

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                Seems nobody is satisfied with your sources, or even can gather what you’re actually trying to claim is happening at a concrete level. What’s the point of what you’re doing? Providing an easy platform for others to debunk?

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                  I mean, you may not be, but everybody else seems pretty satisfied.

                  I haven’t been debunked yet.

                  Sources and facts are a little too fundamental to debunk.

                  I have time to kill, so I don’t mind repeating a lot of these sources or facts.

                  facts are fun.

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                    Let’s ask this one more time. If you don’t mind repeating, it should be no problem for you to do so. Facts are fun, after all!

                    1. What do you believe is quantitatively and qualitatively happening in Xinjiang with regards to the re-education camps? Ie, what numbers, and what specifically is happening, ie mass murder, sterilization, vocational training, cultural erasure, etc?

                    2. What do you think the people asking you for sources believe, or those who have given you counter-arguments?

                    3. For all of the quantitative and qualitative claims you wish to make regarding section 1, provide links to sources and evidence. Ie what’s happening, and at what scale, and in what time frame.

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                    Nobody else is satisfied, you have been thoroughly debunked, and you haven’t provided sources and facts.