• TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    We will see in four years (or less depending if anything horrifically dramatic happens). But when violence has to happen, get ready to exercise your second amendment rights.

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        I suppose the hope is that the military will fracture because a lot of soldiers won’t be happy to shoot at the civilians they’re supposedly sworn to protect. But that’s entirely dependent on how brainwashed they are, and how much information they’re able to get.

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        23 hours ago

        I have heard the statement before, and the US napalmed and bombed the crap out of North Vietnamese and Taliban, and yet in both instances the US military lost the wars. I think Americans forgot the art of guerilla warfare since the American revolution and think now in conventional terms.

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          In both Afghanistan and Vietnam they didn’t want to occupy them forever. I’m pretty sure that won’t be an issue here.

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      2 days ago

      How is people being disappeared to concentration camp not already horrifically dramatic?

      How is elected officials being arrested for asking for a warrant, or asking questions not already horrifically dramatic?

      How is sending our own military and arresting civilians in L.A. not already horrifically dramatic?

      Where the fuck is your line?

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        Unfortunately, there is plausible deniability that allow the US government to do what they’re doing. In spite of some rulings which tell Trump administration that they are wrong, there are still some actions where they have legal backing, moral or not.

        Legal =/= moral.

        That’s just how the world works I’m afraid.

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          2 days ago

          I’m sorry, I guess my initial reply was too many words to be understood fully. So I’ll be more succinct.

          **Something horrifically dramatic has already happened, it’s already time for us to use our 2A rights for communal self defense. **

          Otherwise I agree with what you just said, but I felt like you missed my point, so I wanted to say it in no uncertain terms.

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            2 days ago

            I understand what you mean. What I am saying is that people are overlooking because any perceived red lines haven’t been crossed yet.

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                  1 day ago

                  Actual lines that they have codified into law have been crossed. Your statement is pointless.

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                    Well, society is still run on the abstract and unwritten social contract as much as on the codified law. People still haven’t taken up arms, so the perceived red lines haven’t been crossed. If what Trump has been doing happened twenty or thirty years ago, it would not have been acceptable (previous presidents from both parties got more public backlash simply for lying and adultery and ruined their political careers than Trump). But expectations changed and here we are. That’s just how the world works whether you care to admit it or not.