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    11 months ago

    If I’m not being waited on, don’t look at me to provide you the rest of your wage. Look to your employer.

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      No matter what, it’s always the employer who should pay the whole wages even when you’re being waited on

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        It shouldn’t be, but it’s US law.

        https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips

        An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 per hour in direct wages if that amount combined with the tips received at least equals the federal minimum wage.

        Fuck this law, and fuck employers that try to skirt around it when tips are too low. Also fuck employers in general who aren’t willing to pay their employees a living wage.

        I tip for waiting jobs because I know people work for shitty employers and it’s their primary income source. But I hate the system, not the people who need tips to get by.

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        Yeah, the Mediterranean market near me just got a new credit card reader and the pre loaded software came with the tip screen on it.

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          Yeah they can turn that off but choose not to. Just saying. Company making the software hopes you’ll leave it on and the business owners hope you’ll pay their employees for them.

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          Research the company.

          Or just don’t pretend you’re sticking it to capitalism by helping them stiff their workers. You’re directly supporting the practice. You’re no fucking hero for not tipping, and the only people you’re sticking it to are the underpaid employees.

          Trust me, as a vegan, i know how hard it is to research everything you consume or buy or purchase. You give up convenience to support a cause you care about or believe in, because those conveniences are exactly what feeds the problem. And trying to find stuff that isn’t contributing to the problem is way more expensive, because cruelty to animals or cruelty to your human minimum wage workers are exactly what makes your food so quick and easy and cheap.

          As a general rule, i’d guess that if you don’t want to tip, but don’t want to support companies that don’t pay their wages well: give up cheap fast food. give up most large national or international chains. you’re probably looking at a lot more cooking for yourself from home, probably buying your food at a local small co-op. It’s not going to be easy.

          That or tip well because the person taking your order is the person you’re fucking over by not tipping, not the people profiting.

          Either way don’t pretend you’re doing anything other than supporting the problem.

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        I don’t. I actually live in a country where tipping is not customary. Now let’s talk about your problems… Why do you assume the worst in people? You could have said the exact same thing without attacking everybody.sThe world is a large place and things are not always like they are in your neighborhood

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        Of course, it is common sense when entering an establishment for the first time to do a business model analysis to see if the employees are getting shafted.

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          This argument is strange to me, because super-wealthy people don’t pollute just because they can. They do it because it’s profitable…and it’s profitable because people buy their products.

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            “It’s your fault I’m killing the environment because even though I know my products are killing the environment, you keep buying them so why should I change anything?”

            Yeah that sounds exactly like the corporate propaganda I see everywhere

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          “can’t solve the problem as long as capitalism exists, so may as well contribute to capitalism while patting myself on the back and pretending i’m sticking it to the man by helping them exploit workers” is such fucking bullshit. “i can’t change the world so may as well contribute to the fucked up” is exactly what keeps the practice sustainable.

          you are only contributing to wage theft by deciding you’re a hero for not tipping.

          if you want to try in other ways to make effective change in society? go for it. do that too. but don’t hit no tip and then go jerk off publicly over how sexy you are for fighting capitalism.

      • Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Lol nobody cares. I won’t tip. I don’t care to know how an employer pays wages. Let me just eat. I’m also a slave, don’t look at me for salvation.

        Don’t work there if wages aren’t paid fairly.

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        11 months ago

        That is not my problem. In this day and age where prices if food have gone through the roof, sorry, but I usually search for the cheapest place there is. I have a fixed income as well.

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        Or maybe don’t work at such a place? Don’t agree to an unfair deal. Quit. Force the employer to change.

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      Canada is debatably worse than the US when it comes to tipping. In the US, wait staff are paid less than minimum wage so it makes sense to tip them (even though the system should change), but in Canada they is no such exception and the minimum prompt is 18%.

      Also, the other day Subway prompted me to tip…

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        US Subway store point of sale systems are asking for tips as well now. It’s really off putting. I hope no one starts tipping there, it’s already too expensive for what you get.

        No need to feed to the problem with this business practice. I only tip those with occupations that have already required tips prior to the pandemic. It’s like the existing nuclear pacts. No one is allowed to start obtaining nukes if they didn’t have any before!

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        While Canada has no explicit exception to the minumum wage law, the minimum wage in Canada is still laughable and is absolutely not survivable for how expensive living here is.

        Though the solution here is not tipping, which ignores every other customer service and “”“unskilled”“” labour worker that isn’t in food service. It should be raising the minimum wage to a post inflation value that reflects current costs of living, and committing to continuously updating it so it stays even with inflation and rising costs in general (not unheard of, some European countries for example use a formula to calculate every year’s minimum wage based on current inflation and cost of living). Actually, we shouldn’t have a single national minimum wage but one depending on where you live so it reflects your actual survival expenses. Both Vancouver and Vanderhoof enjoy fast food and coffee shops but the employees in the former have a much harder time living in the city they work in than the latter despite doing the same work and making the same contribution to their fellow residents (or if nothing else, they do more work in a larger city with more people while not being able to afford the larger city).

        And yeah, Subway’s been doing that for a while, at least in the part of Canada I am.

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      The Czech Republic does. Don’t know how common it is in other European countries.

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      11 months ago

      The worst part is that many businesses are introducing this tipping scheme.

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    If some fucker tries to guilt me into tipping in Europe like this, they get “no tip”, then a 1 star review on Maps and TripAdvisor explaining exactly why they spoiled my experience

    Imdoingmypart.jpeg

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      Always remember to tip your landlords, the most exploited class in society.

      In fact, what are you doing living in their house? What, just because you’re paying for it? Are you trying to forcibly evict them from their private property?! You housing-addicted loser. /s

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    11 months ago

    I don’t tip, ever, even if the service is good. No one tips me at my job regardless how I do it.

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    In Canada they don’t have a “no tip” option any more, instead you have to click $ or % and put in 0. So what I do is I type in 0000 so they hear four inputs and think they’re getting at least 10$ even though i’m not tipping at all.

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    I am sorry, I am not tipping 2$ for people to turn around and get my coffee from a tap.

    Tipping waiters will be my final compromise with tipping culture. I never order delivery from app because I refuse to be forced to tip the delivery person after being charged delivery fee and serivce fee. I also do not tip countertop worker.

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    That’s one of the things I hated when I visited Norway. I didn’t expect to see that in a European country.