• Ukraine is able to fire just 2,000 shells a day, its defense minister said.
  • That’s about a third of what Russia is firing, Rustem Umerov added.
  • In a letter seen by Bloomberg, Umerov urged his EU counterparts to fulfill their ammo commitments.
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    It must be really cool to see the world as an action movie. Unfortunately, here in the real world, things don’t always play out where the good guys win through hard work and perseverance.

    This is a very simple concept: big army with lots of troops and supplies needs to hold ground behind big ass river. Smaller army with less supplies needs to advance across big ass river. Not exactly a good scenario. Momentum is important in this situation because without it, the enemy builds defenses like trenches along the river. That momentum has already been lost.

    As for the Ukrainians fighting on forever, Poland getting involved, and China abandoning Russia; this is entirely speculation based on your personal vibes. None of the factual ground evidence supports any of it.

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      This is a very simple concept: big army with lots of troops and supplies needs to hold ground behind big ass river

      No. To fulfil their war goals Russia needs to move to the oblast borders, also over that river, just to gain control over territory they already claim to be legally part of the Russian Federation. They’re not doing that. They have, in your words, no momentum. What they do have is getting attritted.

      As for the Ukrainians fighting on forever, Poland getting involved, and China abandoning Russia; this is entirely speculation based on your personal vibes. None of the factual ground evidence supports any of it.

      Read the polls.

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        If Russia was intended to continue advancing, they wouldn’t have dug trenches. They’re playing the long game. They knew the US would abandon Ukraine at the first opportunity and we did. This is just as much a proxy war with the West as it is a war with Ukraine. It’s within the US’s best interest to keep the war going on as long as possible so as soon as Ukraine started making gains we decided to pull back on the reigns.

        War goals don’t need to be achieved for Russia to declare victory. Putin would surely spin it as him being a kind leader that’s willing to accept peace over war goals. But the real war goals have already been achieved anyways.

        Polls = most accurate representation of real world scenarios that never differ from what actually happens…oh wait.

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          If Russia was intended to continue advancing, they wouldn’t have dug trenches.

          How to tell me you have no idea about strategy without telling me you don’t have any idea about strategy.

          Ukraine, too, is digging trenches. Now what, are you claiming Ukraine doesn’t want to regain its territory?

          proxy war

          Oh, indeed, some truth at least: Yes this is a proxy war between South and North Korea. South Korea’s proxy is Ukraine, the EU and US (and a couple others), while North Korea’s proxy is Russia.

          See, both sides to a conflict need to be proxies for something to be a proxy war.

          It’s within the US’s best interest to keep the war going on as long as possible

          First off, no it isn’t. Secondly, that’s not European strategy. Thirdly, if that’s US government strategy you should call your representatives and tell them to deliver weapons ASAP so that Russia can be thrown out of Ukraine quicker.

          War goals don’t need to be achieved for Russia to declare victory.

          Indeed, Russia could withdraw and Putin could still declare victory. That’s not what he’s doing, though: He legally annexed the whole of even Kherson and Zaporizha Oblast, I think even Odessa (broadly speaking: The whole Black Sea coast) and any “peace offer” heard from Russia includes Ukraine giving up those territories which Russia doesn’t even hold.

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            You think this is a proxy war between North and South Korea?! Welp, now that you’ve showed your hand I can see I’m debating a moron and there’s no winning this one. Enjoy eating crayons, little buddy

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                I apologize that your joke was so asinine that it went over my head. You should probably look up proxy war so you can understand it better and improve your shit talking. The US is using Ukraine to make money and stopping the war stops the war money. Either way, you’re a big dumb dummy and you should go outside and touch grass