• alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      The US allegedly spent a billion dollars intercepting these missiles.

      Meanwhile, Ukraine is all out of air defense and only Germany seems to be sending an extra patriot on the short-term.

      As a European, I think the wakeup call is to start taking European security more seriously, since the USA seems to have other priorities.

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        I believe we have been sitting comfortably under the protection of NATO for too many years.

        The people are accustomed to peace and quiet, spending big on military is generally unpopular with large parts of the population because the USA do it anyway. I think it will need a larger wake up call to make people understand these serene times are ending, probably when russia sets its eyes on the next former possession.

        We must protect ourselves, we cannot rely on the states keeping us safe any more, they have become increasingly politically polarized and weary of their global police role, which is also affecting their foreign policies. While Biden and the democrats are probably a reliable ally as before, the ruspublicans with trump have shown that they are not.

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          This is just EU fearmongering to sponsor the Military industrial complex. Russia will not attack a NATO country. That’s a lot different than Ukraine.

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            I didn’t say that they would, just that they very well might try to pull the same on another country they believe they have historical claim to, possibly one that would be more strategically threatening to the west. And that we should be prepared for the next time, so we can provide better military aid, quicker, and in competitive quantities.

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              But they already HAD the weapons to send to Ukraine at the start of the Russian invasion. They just didn’t send them. Only recently did Ukraine get their long desired fighter jets.

              EU and America just stalled until Russia was able to build up their weapons factories. If they sent Ukraine the weapons they needed at the beginning this would have never gone on for so long.

              This is like the Uvalde police waiting outside the school shooting and saying “we need more funding” afterwards.

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            Russia probably won’t attack a NATO country. But this entire world between definitely and probably

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        Well, let’s see the results from the US House this week. Chances are that Ukraine aid will pass.

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      Seriously. The wake up call is that our friends might do something really dumb and rope us into some absolute BS. Who needs enemies

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        Shouldn’t be assassinating people in other countries, whether it’s a consulate or embassy…

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          It was the building next door. Diplomatic law is practiced by the ICC. If Iran has a problem with it, that’s where they go. But they won’t because it was the building next door and not the embassy

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            It was a consulate which is also covered by the Geneva convention as all diplomatic missions are. There really isn’t a significant distinction here.

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              No, it was a building next to the consulate. The Geneva convention has nothing to do with it. As I said Diplomtic law is part of international law.

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                I don’t think you understand. There were two buildings, the embassy and the consulate. The embassy was not directly hit, the consulate was.

                https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2024-04-01/syria-says-deadly-israeli-airstrike-destroyed-irans-consular-building-in-damascus

                While Iran’s consular building was leveled in the attack, according to Syria’s state news agency, its main embassy building remained intact. Still, the Iranian ambassador’s residence was inside the consular building.

                Also looks like the Vienna Convention defines diplomatic missions not the Geneva Convention. My bad.

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                JERUSALEM, April 12 (Reuters) - Israel on Friday braced for an attack by Iran or its proxies as warnings grew of retaliation for the killing last week of a senior officer in Iran’s embassy in Damascus.

                https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-edge-iranian-retaliation-after-embassy-strike-2024-04-12/

                And a source that it’s not just one building so everything else is cool to be blown up.

                A large embassy can have many buildings. The main embassy building is called the chancery, and additional buildings are called annexes. As the public faces of the United States in host countries, embassies are often architectural works of art. In some countries, American staff may live on the embassy compound for safety.

                https://diplomacy.state.gov/what-is-a-u-s-embassy/

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                  Posed In an S onOe>A large embassy can have many buildings

                  Yes, and they have to be declared. Not only that but six commanders meeting is not a consult service, and that’s all that is supposed to go on in an embassey. It was not declared.

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                    Posed In an S onOe>A large embassy can have many buildings

                    Yes, and they have to be declared. Not only that but six commanders meeting is not a consult service, and that’s all that is supposed to go on in an embassey. It was not declared.

                    I honestly have no idea what you’re trying to say or what you’re talking about…

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          Iran has killed a lot of Americans. They are not your friend, brother. They’re not even friends with the people of Iran.