The events of October 7th, 2023, must also be addressed
I think it’s been addressed to the tune of… About 15x the women and children killed. Or do you mean prefacing every statement with “I condemn hamas” just in case?
Don’t mischaracterize what’s being said. However you don’t know what was said, because it was removed shortly after an admin of the instance responded - which is the point.
“The events of October 7th, 2023, must also be addressed, or else any morally-superior pronouncements are going nowhere either fast or slow, any speed you choose is equally pointless. The victims of Palestine are cannon fodder for both Hamas and Israel” is an excellent statement with a lot of truth, and speaks to the nature of Hamas as an organization as well as the victimization of the palestinatian population.
Hamas is a result of Israel, pretending it spontaneously popped into existance as a means to legitimize the Israeli terrorist state is genocide denial.
I, nor the above user did that though, did we? Excusing the actions of one group entirely because of the actions of another is what leaves to an inevitable cycle of violence.
Israel is a fascist, western colonial state forced upon the palestination population. They hide behind antisemitism and support from western countries as an excuse to implement their own version of manifest destiny.
Hamas is a brutal, extremist organization that was born out of incredibly poor conditions, but they’re still extremists, and Abrahamic theological extremists at that- something that has plagued humanity for thousands of years.
For the sake of rhetoric, let’s say Israel stops receiving western support-as they should-and Hamas gains access to the same resources and receives a military advantage. Then what? The genocide shifts and starts going the other direction?
I don’t have good answers to this, but there is nuance to the discussion and deleting comments to that affect is a bad look.
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I think it’s been addressed to the tune of… About 15x the women and children killed. Or do you mean prefacing every statement with “I condemn hamas” just in case?
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You should research what has happened for the last century, then. The genocide only ramped up after October 7th, it didn’t begin then.
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Only last century? Try last few millennium…
Zionist settler-colonialism is a Western project, and it didn’t start millennia ago, it started in 19th century.
If you abuse someone for decades, they’re going to bite back eventually
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The occupied Palestinians have a legal right to struggle against their occupiers “by all available means, including armed struggle.”: https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-184801/
Furthermore, As an Occupier, Israel Has No Right to ‘Self-Defense’.
Look at you, replying to comments then getting mad and deleting them again
Genocide support should be removed.
“Hamas is also bad” != Genocide support.
Don’t mischaracterize what’s being said. However you don’t know what was said, because it was removed shortly after an admin of the instance responded - which is the point.
“The events of October 7th, 2023, must also be addressed, or else any morally-superior pronouncements are going nowhere either fast or slow, any speed you choose is equally pointless. The victims of Palestine are cannon fodder for both Hamas and Israel” is an excellent statement with a lot of truth, and speaks to the nature of Hamas as an organization as well as the victimization of the palestinatian population.
Hamas is a result of Israel, pretending it spontaneously popped into existance as a means to legitimize the Israeli terrorist state is genocide denial.
I, nor the above user did that though, did we? Excusing the actions of one group entirely because of the actions of another is what leaves to an inevitable cycle of violence.
Israel is a fascist, western colonial state forced upon the palestination population. They hide behind antisemitism and support from western countries as an excuse to implement their own version of manifest destiny.
Hamas is a brutal, extremist organization that was born out of incredibly poor conditions, but they’re still extremists, and Abrahamic theological extremists at that- something that has plagued humanity for thousands of years.
For the sake of rhetoric, let’s say Israel stops receiving western support-as they should-and Hamas gains access to the same resources and receives a military advantage. Then what? The genocide shifts and starts going the other direction?
I don’t have good answers to this, but there is nuance to the discussion and deleting comments to that affect is a bad look.
People like you are proof that free speech is a terrible idea.
Lemmygrad user, right?
Damn straight.
Authoritarianism is fine, as long as it’s your guys.
As someone born October 8th, 2023, I agree
(Also, in what way were the Oct 7 events not addressed?)