When will be your “this is the last fucking time I’m voting for the ‘lesser of two evils’, then I don’t care after that, let this country burn to the ground”? For me, this is basically it. This is last election I’m going for that " lesser of two evils" bullshit. After that I’m done. It’s just pointless. Let’s hear it.
It always has been, and always will be, voting for the lesser evil. That’s because of the voting system. Single vote, winner take all. Push for ranked choice or some other vote system. Then we can learn if it’s turtles (evil) all the way down.
Uh, never? As an American I can easily recognize that we live in a 2-party political system in which you have 3 real options:
- Vote for the Democrats
- Vote for the Republicans
- Don’t vote / Waste your vote
American politics is a game of tug-of-war. You can spend as much time as you want lamenting that the rope isn’t exactly where you want it to be right now. But the fact is that one party is pulling the rope to the left and the other party is pulling it to the right. If you want the rope to move right you better join the people on the right, and if you want the rope to move to the left you better join the people on the left. And more to the point, if for whatever reason you don’t want to pull (maybe because it seems futile or maybe because you just don’t like the people on your team) then where can you expect it to move other than away from where you want it to be?
There is no politician on Earth who perfectly represents my politics, ideals or philosophy. If I wanted someone who perfectly represented exactly what I want I would get politically active and run for office myself. In lieu of that, what else can I hope for but to vote for the people who happen to be pulling in my direction, or at the very least pulling back against the mob of right-wing fascist criminals.
I don’t think Biden is perfect, but he’s certainly not evil. What’s more, I know exactly what we’re up against when it comes to Trump and the Republicans (who at best are spineless impotent political cowards, and at worst are fascist activists who want to strip people of rights, further rob the working class, deny climate change in the name of profit, destroy what little democracy we have, and weaponize the government against political enemies).
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again for all takers, name any politician who you think would be making more progress on important issues (healthcare, climate, education, transportation, lgbtq rights, women’s rights, the economy, etc.) than Biden right now and I’ll give you at least 3 reasons why they wouldn’t. (Hint: the House, the Senate, the courts, state legislatures, inflation, unstable geopolitics, post-pandemic economic change, etc.) Bernie or Warren could be sitting in the Oval Office today, and we still wouldn’t have universal healthcare (because of Congress), we still wouldn’t have been able to wipe out student debt (because of the courts), we still would have to deal with wars and terrorism overseas (because of aggression from countries like Russia and Iran), and we still would be feeling the effects of inflation (because of decades of low interest rates coupled with pandemic supply chain fuckery).
So yeah, I’m not gonna stop voting for the better candidate of the two, because what the fuck else would any reasonable person do? Pull the rope towards where you want it to go. It’s not hard.
I don’t think Biden is perfect, but he’s certainly not evil.
Your man is a genocider. He’s automatically a no-go; try again, settler.
when the greater evil doesn’t want me dead just for existing and isn’t trying to destroy democracy
The lesser evil wants you dead too, Biden has been upkeeping the 1033 Program since his installation
You guys were voting based on “lesser of two evils” and not based on who you actually like?
I’ve always just voted for the guy I like best. I never felt that voting tactically was truthful.
If everyone was like me we’d have a nicer political climate, I think.
I’ll keep doing that so you can feel free to join me in doing that until we reach the critical mass point.
That assumes that there are any viable candidates running that we actually like. That’s becoming more and more a pipe dream, haven’t seen one since Obama.
Sometimes I have to write someone in, but it still counts as a vote!
That person is not a viable candidate, and you’ve basically just helped out the greater of two evils by refusing to oppose him.
Since you’re talking specifically about the presidential election, I actually am helping my candidate, since if I and others can get 1% of the popular vote for someone, then they can get easier access to ballots, debates, and federal funding next time.
No, you’re not helping your candidate, your candidate is beyond help. They’re going to lose. Either Biden is going to win, or Trump is going to win, and if you vote for anyone but Biden, you’re complicit in helping Trump.
i dont vote. somewhere along the line some dumbass thought it would be a really good idea to pull jury nominees from the voter pool. jury duty is a complete waste of my time, it pays absolute dogshit, and I’ve never really had much trust in the justice system to begin with - so I am not registered to vote in the state I live in. the week before I plan on leaving for greener pastures, I will register to vote.
Jury service is one of the greatest services you can perform. You don’t have much trust in the justice system? For that one case you can help ensure it’s done. Take it seriously
pass
When the greater of two evils who might win if I don’t isn’t a raging narcissistic fascist.
