• barsoap@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    It’s you who’s equating having military capacity and using it. It’s you who’s equating resisting occupation with massacring far-left hippie Kibbutzim who were out there in Gaza, helping Palestinians left and right, and on the 7th you probably also made fun of them having a rave.

    The average Palestinian is channelling Ghandi hardcore and all you care about is giving Kahanites pretext for genocide while freeing them of the inconvenient lefty voices within Israel. That is what your support for Hamas does, critical or otherwise, because that’s what they’re doing. There were plenty of other targets in reach, plenty of other civilian targets, Hamas chose the hippies. Why?

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      5 months ago

      Ah, now I see who you are. You embody the liberal ideal that dying nonviolently is nobler than violent resistance. So useful to have “military capacity” and not use it while your people are slaughtered and yours lands stolen, eh?

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        5 months ago

        Fuck noble how about strategically opportune. Is that a thing you can do, prioritise strategy and the achievement of aims over your bloodlust.

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            5 months ago

            Have you actually ever had a look at what Palestinians say. Their political discourse. Would be a much more useful use of your time than mindlessly parroting thought-terminating cliches such as “If you are against bombing hippie civilians you’re pro genocide”.

            Do you seriously think you know better what to do than Palestinians themselves. Is that some white saviour shit or something.

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                5 months ago

                No. Which doesn’t have to do with anything. I also didn’t ask you to move there to have an opinion, all I asked you to do was reading up a bit on Palestinian politics. Was that so unthinkable a suggestion that you need to get all defensive now and attempt to deflect.

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                  5 months ago

                  How is it deflecting when you call me a “white savior” for having an outsider opinion about this genocide, if I hold your opinion to the same standard? Have you considered that the rank and file of Hamas live in Palestine? The ones that are fighting and dying? That they themselves are the children and orphans of Palestine?

                  I’m am sure that there is a variety of opinions among the Palestinian people, just as there are among the Israelis and Americans. I am aware of the limitations of my own perspective, but all I can do is apply my knowledge and principles to the situation as I see it. You’re doing the same, and I don’t really see any point in continuing this conversation. Take that as you will.

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                    5 months ago

                    I am aware of the limitations of my own perspective,

                    Then be aware of the average attitude of Palestinians towards stoking the bear, will you, instead of coming here with an attitude of “The PLO is invalid because they’re not fighting they’re complicit in their own genocide”, as you very much insinuated.

                    Because, you know, being aware of the limitations of your own perspective includes not running your mouth when you haven’t done your research.