This is what small government means. Not enough preparation to actually adress a foreseeable situation and then having to spend excessive amounts of public money on private enterprises.
If the state would have spent a billion on building housing for these people and another billion on affordable housing and infra… it would have been a structural solution after year 1… but never would have been financed by the lawmakers.
This is spoken as someone who thinks they know something about NYC.
First off this article is actually about NYC, not the state of NY.
NYC is WILDLY blue. And NYC is WILDLY complicated and huge from a government perspective. It’s so fucking large that the departments that are supposed to deal with specific policy/law can’t even advise you on any of it. Then a week later you’ll get a fine.
Literally everything you think you said about NYS… is opposite because it’s NYC.
Where did I say left or right? I’m actually deeply aware that left and right are poor nomenclatures and SPECIFICALLY chose not to use it. Mostly because left and right are completely different in the US vs the EU. However, Red and Blue in the USA specifically reference a particular political party. Of which NYC is deep and dark blue, where-as upstate NY (typically a reference to anything that isn’t NYC and it’s surrounding metro area) is oftentimes Red.
You claimed “small government”. That’s not what NYC is, not even close. It’s the Republican party that runs on “Small Government” (incorrectly). But that’s a moot point as NYC is Democrat.
But at least thanks for proving that you’re talking about a topic you have no idea about. All you can do is run to ad hominem rather than actually discuss the problem.
Side note: I’m a dual citizen and hold both US and EU passports. Tell me that I’m a “true american” again, most of the people I interact with in the USA certainly don’t hold the same point of view.
You ran the ad hominem first buddy, I just replied in kind as you just waved away the remark with “it’s complicated”.
And the pressure of republicans and other small government freaks is felt everywhere. The simple fact of the matter is that having to resort to paying commercial parties for housing means the government missed the mark on allocating the funds to provide structural housing at much lower cost. Meaning it is a waste of tax dollars that could have been used elsewhere.
Where? So we’re already at an impasse. My statement didn’t completely hinge on your obvious lack of familiarity with NYC. You ignored the whole argument and turned around and called me oblivious. My statement had no malice, yours clearly did. Welcome to the block-list since you want to be a jackass.
Ad hominem is a Latin term for arguments that attack the person making a claim rather than the claim itself.
I didn’t solely attack you. I pointed out your obvious lack of knowledge and then pointed out the actual underlying issues that prove your original statement incorrect. Your response was simply “Ignorant American!”. Which was both factually wrong and a proper ad hominem. You addressed nothing further than your supposed attack on me. That’s what makes the fallacy.
The simple fact of the matter is that having to resort to paying commercial parties for housing means the government missed the mark on allocating the funds to provide structural housing at much lower cost.
There is “structural” housing, and even a significant amount of it in the NYC area. It’s all full up. It costs time and money to build more. And they don’t have time because the people are there now. You can’t just magic land, magic materials, magic builders, magic all the resources needed to build something in 1 day. And nobody is able to build at any speed to keep up with the breakneck amounts of crossings coming over the border looking for housing in NYC.
So you can call it a waste, but the alternative is that the housing people need now will be available in many months. So everyone goes without in the meantime. And those numbers will never converge with the policies in place right now.
So you again start by being smug and condescending, while crying that I bounced back your “you don’t know what you are talking about, with a neither do you”.
And then you go on by stating that they missed the mark and it’s difficult… And they should have started building when the people where not here yes… because everyone… and I mean everyone… Knew they where coming. So if they would have built then… it would have been ready now. And even if some where vacant for some time… I’m sure there’s plenty of new yorkers looking for affordable housing.
But no, america is special, New York is different compared to plenty of global capitals and mega cities.
This is what small government means. Not enough preparation to actually adress a foreseeable situation and then having to spend excessive amounts of public money on private enterprises.
If the state would have spent a billion on building housing for these people and another billion on affordable housing and infra… it would have been a structural solution after year 1… but never would have been financed by the lawmakers.
This is spoken as someone who thinks they know something about NYC.
First off this article is actually about NYC, not the state of NY.
NYC is WILDLY blue. And NYC is WILDLY complicated and huge from a government perspective. It’s so fucking large that the departments that are supposed to deal with specific policy/law can’t even advise you on any of it. Then a week later you’ll get a fine.
Literally everything you think you said about NYS… is opposite because it’s NYC.
Spoken like a true american who is oblivious to the fact he is governed by the capital class, divided in right and ultra right political parties.
Where did I say left or right? I’m actually deeply aware that left and right are poor nomenclatures and SPECIFICALLY chose not to use it. Mostly because left and right are completely different in the US vs the EU. However, Red and Blue in the USA specifically reference a particular political party. Of which NYC is deep and dark blue, where-as upstate NY (typically a reference to anything that isn’t NYC and it’s surrounding metro area) is oftentimes Red.
You claimed “small government”. That’s not what NYC is, not even close. It’s the Republican party that runs on “Small Government” (incorrectly). But that’s a moot point as NYC is Democrat.
But at least thanks for proving that you’re talking about a topic you have no idea about. All you can do is run to ad hominem rather than actually discuss the problem.
Side note: I’m a dual citizen and hold both US and EU passports. Tell me that I’m a “true american” again, most of the people I interact with in the USA certainly don’t hold the same point of view.
You ran the ad hominem first buddy, I just replied in kind as you just waved away the remark with “it’s complicated”.
And the pressure of republicans and other small government freaks is felt everywhere. The simple fact of the matter is that having to resort to paying commercial parties for housing means the government missed the mark on allocating the funds to provide structural housing at much lower cost. Meaning it is a waste of tax dollars that could have been used elsewhere.
Where? So we’re already at an impasse. My statement didn’t completely hinge on your obvious lack of familiarity with NYC. You ignored the whole argument and turned around and called me oblivious. My statement had no malice, yours clearly did. Welcome to the block-list since you want to be a jackass.
So you learn for the future: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
I didn’t solely attack you. I pointed out your obvious lack of knowledge and then pointed out the actual underlying issues that prove your original statement incorrect. Your response was simply “Ignorant American!”. Which was both factually wrong and a proper ad hominem. You addressed nothing further than your supposed attack on me. That’s what makes the fallacy.
There is “structural” housing, and even a significant amount of it in the NYC area. It’s all full up. It costs time and money to build more. And they don’t have time because the people are there now. You can’t just magic land, magic materials, magic builders, magic all the resources needed to build something in 1 day. And nobody is able to build at any speed to keep up with the breakneck amounts of crossings coming over the border looking for housing in NYC.
So you can call it a waste, but the alternative is that the housing people need now will be available in many months. So everyone goes without in the meantime. And those numbers will never converge with the policies in place right now.
So you again start by being smug and condescending, while crying that I bounced back your “you don’t know what you are talking about, with a neither do you”.
And then you go on by stating that they missed the mark and it’s difficult… And they should have started building when the people where not here yes… because everyone… and I mean everyone… Knew they where coming. So if they would have built then… it would have been ready now. And even if some where vacant for some time… I’m sure there’s plenty of new yorkers looking for affordable housing.
But no, america is special, New York is different compared to plenty of global capitals and mega cities.