Yup, social democracy and unions were concessions capitalism stopped making once there was no competing ideology after the collapse of communism (current Chinese “Communism” isn’t even Fascism as that still had SOME social benefits). I do still think our best hope is do what we did with FDR which is “I don’t care about your shitty party, give us material long term policy concessions, and then we can talk”
(current Chinese “Communism” isn’t even Fascism as that still had SOME social benefits)
Not to imply that China is a utopia—as none can exist—but most of our understanding of it comes filtered through Cold War II propaganda, which, in the rear-view mirror, will look about as ham-fisted as the first Cold War’s propaganda does now.
Most Chinese polled actually describe their country as democratic, because they view the state as generally responsive to their needs, and for many of them that matters more than token votes. I would not describe my government as democratic, as I live in a one party rule state where the state and national party dictates the primary winners when they deign to allow them and my vote doesn’t count, and at no level is the government I pay taxes to responsive to my needs.
Yup, social democracy and unions were concessions capitalism stopped making once there was no competing ideology after the collapse of communism (current Chinese “Communism” isn’t even Fascism as that still had SOME social benefits). I do still think our best hope is do what we did with FDR which is “I don’t care about your shitty party, give us material long term policy concessions, and then we can talk”
Not to imply that China is a utopia—as none can exist—but most of our understanding of it comes filtered through Cold War II propaganda, which, in the rear-view mirror, will look about as ham-fisted as the first Cold War’s propaganda does now.
Most Chinese polled actually describe their country as democratic, because they view the state as generally responsive to their needs, and for many of them that matters more than token votes. I would not describe my government as democratic, as I live in a one party rule state where the state and national party dictates the primary winners when they deign to allow them and my vote doesn’t count, and at no level is the government I pay taxes to responsive to my needs.