• Katana314@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    I blame the voters, not the campaigns.

    I am tired of all blame going to the marketing, and forfeiting any concept of agency in each individual voter’s decisions.

    The depressing thing is, I’m aware of how unrealistic it is to yell every voter into making better decisions for their, and others’, lives.

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      Bullshit.

      The democrats could have easily passed electoral reform and given 3rd parties equal access to the electoral process in the states they controlled. Then there would have been multiple attempts to defeat the republicans each election.

      Democrats would prefer the nation fall to authoritarianism over having to compete for your vote on a fair playing field.

      Party over country, till the day the country dies.

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        Politics has never gone well when it’s been a game of determining who exactly is pointing their gun at the puppy by being obstinate over one thing. It’s basically being a single issue voter.

        The fall to MAGA is tragic, but it’s: “THE VOTERS would rather prefer the nation fall to authoritarians”.

        I will also point out: Ballot measures for ranked choice voting, independent of candidates, failed in some states. So it’s clearly not as popular as you think it is.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Yeah, there are lots of people doing everything they can to abdicate themselves because they stayed home, or voted third party in protest (and then spent hours on Lemmy telling people why voting for Harris is actually just as bad for Palestine)…

      And that means blaming everyone but the voters themselves. They can’t take personal responsibility, because that would involve admitting the role they’ve played (and are about to have played) in the extermination of the Palestinian people (among every other horrific thing that happens domestically).

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        I dunno who you’re referring to. Everyone i know voted for Harris, even the anarchists, because they recognize the value of building a coalition of change from relative safety over what we are about to get.

        I do think terminally online people are trying to find one single group to blame, and I agree that that’s wrong. It was a failure on multiple levels, but given the amount of capital they have, the in-built ability of both Biden and Harris to reach the people by virtue of their current jobs, and the fact that it’s Democrats’ literal job to lead and inform the public, and it begins to strain credulity to think they just lost by chance, that the planets weren’t aligned, or something.

        Democrats should be held accountable for how they ran their campaign; to say they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory would be an understatement. Most people vote off of general vibes, with the last month being the most important, and people are and were scared, angry, and lost.

        Men would never be superstitious, if they could govern all their circumstances by set rules, or if they were always favoured by fortune: but being frequently driven into straits where rules are useless, and being often kept fluctuating pitiably between hope and fear by the uncertainty of fortune’s greedily coveted favours, they are consequently, for the most part, very prone to credulity. The human mind is readily swayed this way or that in times of doubt, especially when hope and fear are struggling for the mastery, though usually it is boastful, over - confident, and vain.

        —Spinoza

        Democrats didn’t give people a reason to hope, so people went for the easy authoritarian option. Things feel broken to a lot of them, so surely, he’ll change some things and totally not exacerbate the existing causes.

        If Democrats can’t guide people’s feelings, if they can’t run somebody exciting, who promises and exudes hopeful change, they’re going to continue to lose ground to Republicans who are able to stoke the fires of fear and promise sweeping (authoritarian) changes to ameliorate that fear.

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          The thing i hate most is they refuse to spend any political capital and at the end of the election cycle it all drys up. donald trump goes out there every day and tests his followers loyalty and we can’t even have a fraction of that on the left. I refused to believe if the DNC broke away from their own self imposed political dogmas they wouldn’t be rewarded. At the least I refuse to believe they couldn’t even make an attempt.