no Christians supported mass murderer
Hitler and his supporters were Christians
No true bible-believing Christians supported it
Sounds an awful lot like the scenario that you described. In fact it matches the archetypical example so well that it’s kinda wild that you quoted it when trying to say it doesn’t apply
Why do you think the example being trivial means that they all have to be trivial to apply? Examples are not all encompassing, nor do they seek to additional constraints that were not part of the definition.
The whole point of the fallacy is to disingenuously distance the group from acts that members of the group have done.
There’s nothing disingenuous about it. If you don’t hold to a belief system, you don’t hold to a belief system. A genocide of a people that God once considered “chosen” purely on the grounds of race is not part of the Christian belief system. My overall point is that you cannot blame Christianity for the holocaust - the main proponents of the Holocaust weren’t Christian at all.
If you’re going to be strict, there exist no true Christian, because every single Christian has violated some Christian tenant, especially because some tenants are contradictory.
But if you allow enough wiggle room to allow for the existence of Christians, then you’re going to run straight into true Scotsman when you try to exclude specific groups
Sounds an awful lot like the scenario that you described. In fact it matches the archetypical example so well that it’s kinda wild that you quoted it when trying to say it doesn’t apply
What type of horse kicked you in the head to make you think that mass murder is as trivial as sugar on porridge or saying no-no words?
What type of horse kicked you in the head to make you think that “no true Scotsman” cannot apply to serious topics?
Why do you think the example being trivial means that they all have to be trivial to apply? Examples are not all encompassing, nor do they seek to additional constraints that were not part of the definition.
The whole point of the fallacy is to disingenuously distance the group from acts that members of the group have done.
There’s nothing disingenuous about it. If you don’t hold to a belief system, you don’t hold to a belief system. A genocide of a people that God once considered “chosen” purely on the grounds of race is not part of the Christian belief system. My overall point is that you cannot blame Christianity for the holocaust - the main proponents of the Holocaust weren’t Christian at all.
If you’re going to be strict, there exist no true Christian, because every single Christian has violated some Christian tenant, especially because some tenants are contradictory.
But if you allow enough wiggle room to allow for the existence of Christians, then you’re going to run straight into true Scotsman when you try to exclude specific groups
Good point.
Username checks out, lol.