I think this community needs to have a conversation about whether we keep allowing AI comics.
It’s a no for me but I’m willing to vote.
There’s a vote under every post. Feel free.
When I’ve got 10,000 AI generated candidates on my ballot and its my job to pick out the half dozen real submissions, it feels like there’s a structural problem with the election’s process.
Nice “gotcha”. But you know what I meant. We should discuss adding it as a sub rule - so we can report it for AI as they come.
I wonder if Germans were this nonchalant about Hitler rising to power.
Fascist: “We’re just following orders.”
Liberal: “Court orders?”
Fascist: “Shut up and get in the van.”
Liberal: “Okay, but I’m going to post a frowny face about it on Twitter.”
Lads here me out on this it might sound a bit harsh but I’m starting to think them fasists are cunts
One of the few good things about WW2 is a lot of fascists died.
Why are there way more AI comic posts than usual lately?
Because sometimes people have an idea for a relevant comic, but not the artistic ability to draw it. So, they use AI tools to create the artwork.
Damn, you’re right, artistic talent is totally required to make webcomics.
I apologise for my glib response. I don’t doubt your sincerity. Things may change in the future. It’s just that in this particular historical moment AI has as much to do with democratising talent as nfts did with supporting solo artists/creators.
I am sorry. This combination is no longer allowed. Internet gatekeepers have spoken.
edit: obligatory /s?
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Regardless of my personal dislike towards AI, which I didn’t even express, I was just making an observation.
I think they were sarcastically replying to you. Pretending to be someone who actually has that opinion.
My comment is a little higher in the chain, they didn’t reply to me
Ah. Then I can understand your reply a little more. Still, you can consider their reply directed at everybody else in the thread bemoaning AI.
AI shitposting is effortless.
This didn’t ring my AI bells at all. Oof…
Same here. What are the signs here?
Look at the Nazi insignia. It’s all AI garbled noise.
I left another comment down there somewhere, but here’s something
The most obvious tell to me is that it looks more like a filter than a real drawing. So far all AI drawings look like this. There’s also details that I was able to pick apart:
- Why did the artist choose to draw everyone gazing into nowhere in particular, and not for example at each other?
- People have detailed faces, but their expressions seem unrelated to the message. Same applies to positions.
- The concentration camp victim is especially scared of something offscreen while the SS officer holding his shoulders, as if he was protecting this small man…?
- The artist chose to very clearly display the sheriff holding his fist in front of the native american, but for no apparent reason. Same for ICE.
- Why did the artist choose to use three victims in the last panel, making the composition weird and unbalanced.
Maybe it’s because of different amounts of exposure to AI stuff or something, but the only feeling I can get from this style and the empty stares is that something’s just off, and I hate looking at this so much.
That boy… oh boy… his eyes.
Weird eyes on the native American. The soldier/sherif is holding his braid for some reason.
The SS officer has garbled ensignias.
The faces of the immigrants are nearly just copy pasted.
Right after commenting I did look for clues and I noticed these, but I doubt I would’ve checked if other comments weren’t pointing out it’s AI.
It was the eyes that gave it away for me. They look, just, wrong.
Did AI make this? It looks like it
It was just following orders.
KOLANAKI
Nah dw the mom just has epidermodysplasia verruciformis
Why is that man pulling her braid lol
I don’t want to assume their gender but that’s a man, baby!
Must’ve trained the AI on Wheel of Time.
…he’s just following orders
The message: 👍
The AI generated slop: 🫤
I could’ve made this art.
Do it.
Shocking truth:
Humans can make all art made by AI.
Humans can make all calculations made by computers.
People use tools to achieve their goals more efficiently. It’s the way it always has been. It doesn’t mean there’s no value attached to it.
Incidentally, for all of the “this is AI” brigade, what are you picking up on? I’m not picking up on any of the classic tells. Aside from the closed fists in the first and last image, where I’d personally go for an open hand, I don’t see anything obviously amiss.
Yea, I don’t mind AI for personal use stuff like this. But AI in commercial stuff is a big no go.
I agree with this entirely. I personally use AI to help me do things that I don’t have the time to do “the old fashioned way”.
I can draw, paint, sing, sculpt, etc, and I enjoy doing all these things very much. But I don’t have time any more - I have a full-time job, two kids taking up most of my time, and Long COVID means I’m asleep for almost all of what would be left over.
I’ve used AI to help me bring 2d art, music and 3d models into this world that would otherwise be trapped in my head.
The eyes, mostly. The braid thing is weird, too.
Humans can make all art made by AI.
They didn’t say “A human could make this”, they said “I could make this.”
People use tools to achieve their goals more efficiently. It’s the way it always has been. It doesn’t mean there’s no value attached to it.
This counters another argument that wasn’t made. Sure, the end product has some value, but also comes with the negatives that some people see as intrinsic in the use of AI.
what are you picking up on?
Dude pulling on native american person’s braid, mother and daughter look too similar, mom’s hand is messed up, SS logos are messed up
There’s a wave of AI generated comics hitting lemmy right now. At first i was in the same boat as you, found it difficult to identify
Now after seeing more and more, my brain’s detection algorithms are updating.
I’m quite good at seeing obvious AI slop images, but comics was a totallly new thing i had to learn to detect
Ah, thanks for that!
I was genuinely interested because I used to lecture when the GANs first started appearing. Ironically enough, I used to point out to the students how you could tell photos were generated (mismatching ears shapes, asymmetrical glasses, oddly shaped jewellery etc.).
Seems like I need more exposure to the comic art side of things!
If you’re interested in seeing how good it’s gotten now, some are impressive https://sora.com/explore/images
Hands, faces, eyes, insignias. The usual shit.
What ever you do, don’t look at the Native American’s eyes. 🥴
😳😬
but you didn’t.
What’s your point?
if you work for ICE I think your views already align with theirs
To be fair, the nazi guy also looks like he’s in the SS.
The good news for (most of) the pieces of shit from the 1830s and 1940s is that there wasn’t a tool for us to use to name and shame.
However for this generation of fascist scum there is now the internet. And it should be used to track down and tackle the ICE scumbags. Fuck them.Edit: Reee, AI, blah blah because, yes, that’s the most horrible thing about this post. Definitely not the kidnapping and fascism. Fuck sake.
you are on track with the right kind of thinking and the children are too busy whining about the AI. fuck the AI haters. let them say it to my face. we have bigger fish to fry. anybody that wants to get distracted like that is a liability and should be treated as such.
The sentiment of the post is right, but AI is shit and we can adress smaller shit while also focussing on big shit :)
There, said it to your internet face
so brave
Interesting moral dilemma: is ai use acceptable if it’s to spread a message like this?
Smothering the human cartoonists and content creators in an avalanche of AI slop today guarantees you won’t have them tomorrow, when the AI tools are rigged to censor and pervert efforts at creating this kind of content in the future.
Then why doesn’t a human cartoonist redraw them?
Is it acceptable? Honestly I don’t know, it’s tricky.
It is not as if the picture is of real people that have been manipulated. Which is unacceptable . So, for me, it’s down to if the op couldn’t get their message across without it because, again for me, the message is far more important (at the moment).
And AI being shoved in to everything and up everyone’s arses is a problem for another day.What I do know is that I posted my comment then read other comments and that most of the replies that mentioned AI were just mentioning AI. Some mentioned AI and the general message of the post. Some mentioned the message, but the majority and their replies were just about the AI.
Which, to me, means that OP’s message seems to be less important.
If op could draw themselves I don’t think they would have used AI.A quick “fuck AI” then acknowledgement about the general meaning of the post is far more important, and on topic, than just mentioning AI.
The general message of this post has been steam rollered by other things, and it really shouldn’t be like that.
Fuck sake.
Dude. Nobody got kidnapped or fascisted over this post. But the use of AI was a real thing that actually occurred. Yes, it’s perfectly appropriate for people to care about that, and some people, believe it or fucking not, can hold two things in their heart at the same time. If I can make you ignore whatever I’m actually doing just by referencing Mussolini, I have a superpower over you. And maybe people do.
Also, fuck your low key ableism. Let “reee” die.
You should cry more.
Devastating. I may never recover from that. Let’s cry together.
I see everyone has addressed the AI slop part of it, but it also doesn’t need the labels at the bottom. Let’s not treat the readers like they’re stupid.
If readers weren’t stupid maybe we wouldn’t be in this situation to begin with
Except just following orders can no longer keep you from getting convicted.
Dont love the AI slop but appreciate the message
Dont love the AI
Are the taking Lemmy as revenue away from artists? Are they selling this commercially? Should they have commissioned a perfessional artist for your free meme?
Something about trying to appeal to human emotions with robot creations doesn’t sit right sith me.
No, I just think it looks like shit
It does seem a little odd to include the USA twice and not to include China or the USSR once. They could have even included Dutch slavers putting Africans on a boat.
can we please keep this AI shit out of here
Don’t get upset about AI. It was just following orders.
