• punksnotdead@slrpnk.net
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    19 hours ago

    Great jobs? Doing what? Licking boots?

    Uprooting your entire life, saying goodbye to all of your friends, family, community, home, all for the pursuit of some dollars, that’s insanity. Only in a sick world where money is our master is that viewed otherwise.

    Uprooting for adventure is one thing, uprooting for work is not the same.

    Your comment sounds like some AI generated LinkedIn status and it makes me feel sick.

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      17 hours ago

      There’s more to careers than just money. The distribution of jobs in different industry sectors, job specialties, etc. aren’t going to be uniform throughout the world, so many types of jobs will require people to move.

      It’s not even about money. It’s about wanting to work in something specific that isn’t as easily available in the town you happened to be born in.

      that’s insanity

      makes me feel sick

      That’s a pretty strong reaction to the simple idea that maybe living your entire life within a 30 minute drive of where you were born isn’t the best way to experience this life. You don’t have to want it, but is it that much to ask to simply understand that some other people want it?

      My hometown is, like, fine. I could’ve stayed. But its state government is insane, the dominant local industries and companies don’t really fit my moral framework, and the social aspect pushes people into a car-based lifestyle that I’m not particularly interested in. I left for a job, but I also was just looking for a reason to leave.

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        15 hours ago

        You were looking for a reason to leave. I covered that in my comment, “Uprooting for adventure is one thing”.

        OP’s comment reads like sigma male bullshit, essentially saying “I worked harder and smarter than everyone else, they just didn’t have the work ethic I do”. It’s wank. It repulses me, therefore the phrase “makes me feel sick”.

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          13 hours ago

          It’s not about work ethic. It’s an openness to new things, and a willingness to coordinate and plan things.

          And seeing “moving away” as a huge sacrifice, to where you’d tend to describe it as “uprooting your life,” is a particular worldview that you’re entitled to, but one you should be aware that many other people don’t share.

          You’re attributing a lot of unspoken values in that comment that I don’t really think are there, and I suspect it’s because you place a much higher value in staying close to home than the typical person does, and because you seem to elevate the purpose of a career to primarily be maximizing one’s own money.

          So take a step back. Reread that comment with the revisited assumption that some people choose careers for reasons completely different from money, and that people don’t feel a strong need to stay in the same city where they grew up. It’s just career advice at that point.

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            6 hours ago

            Mate, you got so much patience and empathy to be able to respond and explain. Love who you are and who you have become. I absolutely would have walked away from a negative comment and you are so capable to reiterate points to a random internet comment.

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      16 hours ago

      Boot licking is chosing to stay home and making a pittance at one of the few dead end jobs available when the outward move could have been expontially better and resulted in you moving back with your family, with more resources, later on when possible.

      You’re basically judging / telling people to get stuck because in your ideal world they wouldnt have had to.

      In case you haven’t noticed, this ain’t that.

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        16 hours ago

        I’m judging/telling people what to do?

        Did you not read the post I responded to?

        Most of my classmates seemed to just want to check boxes and expect a career to happen.

        Some people in my personal experience seem unwilling to do what’s necessary to make their degree worthwhile.

        you really have to find ways to convince employers why you’re different.

        I said in a sick world where money is our master would moving in the pursuit of dollars be insanity. Moving for other reasons is not what this post is about. So what do you think I was implying by that? It is normal, sometimes even necessary, for people to do this, what do you think I’m trying to say about the world?

        Boot licking is chasing the shareholders/masters in the hope that they’ll treat you right and give you a few more dollars per hour than you would working in your home town. A few more dollars than your peers. Boot licking is defending this sick fucking system that we live under where Trumps, Zuckerbergs, and Musks rule the world because money is our master.

    • Learning to live as a stranger and reintegrate into a community is a fun experience for many of us though. When we have the flexibility to travel to work we gain a huge competitive advantage. I think OP brings up the most important point though, many people are too lazy or on cruise control to make themselves interesting.

      Doing things slightly outside your comfort zone and outside your expertise makes you standout. Employers want to hire interesting people as well. It’s not “boot licking” to create a diverse portfolio of skills.

      I picked up Portuguese as a hobby, then later in life my job had a business partner in Brazil, so they paid for me to take classes on company time, sent me to Brazil, then let me act as our liaison with them.

      I didn’t do anything to hunt down money. I traveled for work and have never stopped learning. I never wanted to stay in my small town. This allowed me to create an interesting story and I rarely open at an interview with my qualifications, but they always remember who I am.

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      16 hours ago

      Uprooting your entire life, saying goodbye to all of your friends, family, community, home, all for the pursuit of some dollars, that’s insanity

      Or, maybe they just hate their life/family/community and want to get out of a dead end town with no opportunities?

      I moved 7 hours away for a job and I’ve never been happier. Met my chosen family and have made a decent life for myself.

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          15 hours ago

          Yeah, and if her wheels were like your argumentation, she wouldn’t make it to the end of the block.

          Just because you don’t agree with people doesn’t make it insanity, and saying it does shows how small minded you are.

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              15 hours ago

              Blah blah blah. Despite my original comment, I wasn’t looking to leave and was planning on returning, but I’m glad I left and I don’t want to go back after experiencing something better.

              Keep looking for any excuse to not understand viewpoints you disagree with/reinforcing your existing beliefs, it really helps your (lack of) argumentation style.

              But I’m done with this discussion, as it’s a waste of my time and energy. Good day.