Vice President Kamala Harris said in a meeting Saturday with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi that Washington will not allow for the forced relocation of Palestinians or any redrawing of the current border of the Gaza Strip.
“Under no circumstances will the United States permit the forced relocation of Palestinians from Gaza or the West Bank, the besiegement of Gaza, or the redrawing of the borders of Gaza,” Harris said, according to a statement from the vice president’s office.
Every major country recognizes Palestine as a country except for the US and Israel.Edit: this is horribly wrong, all of western europe holds the same position as the US, and the number of countries that recognize palestine is padded with a high number of countries that aren’t relevant to the conflict at all.
You’re right that other Muslim majority countries do not want to take in Palestinians as refugees, but you’re wrong that they are naturally refugees. They have homes, and half of their homes were bones into oblivion in these past few months.
From Wiki:
Looking at which states recognize Palestina and which don’t. Good to know, that Europe doesn’t coun’t as a collection of major countries anymore.
I’m not arguing against Palestinians being or not being refugees though.
Thank you. Ha. I was very wrong and a quick wikipedia search would have given me the correct answer.
You’re welcome. ;)
Please read up on the Six Day War where Egypt, Syria, and Jordan were attempting to blockade Israel from the Red Sea and mobilized their troops in the Sinai, posturing themselves for all out war with Israel. The result was that Israel gained Gaza and the West Bank. Therefore, the Palestinians are refugees of war. Israel has worked to broker peace over and over again, but the Palestinians keep blowing shit up. Many muslims simply don’t value human life. It’s not an apartheid. It’s a blockade to protect Israel from crazy people.
EDIT: I should also add that in the years after the war, including the Camp David Accords, Israel offerered to return the territory to Egypt, as long as Egypt could ensure that the Palestinians wouldn’t send rockets at Israel, since that would be considered Egypt attacking Israel. Egypt declined many times. It didn’t want Palestine back. You are all for the self-determination of Palestine, but when their elected body declares war on Israel and Israel responds in kind, that is when you have issues. They reap what they sew.
A refugee is someone who is actively fleeing a conflict. Who is essentially homeless and looking for refuge in a country that isnt their home.
This doesnt describe Palestinians. They have homes (again, until like last month when Israel forcefully displaced them and then destroyed Northern Gaza).
The narrative that all Palestinians are violent extremists is convenient for Israel. Thats why Israel has directly and indirectly supported Hamas and disenfranchised the other state and parties of Palestine that were more likely to find an agreement.
Here is a great copypasta on all this:
DNA studies have determined that ALL biological Jews of the various subdivisions–Ashkenazim, Mizrahim and Sephardim–are related to one another. ALL biological Jews have also been determined to have genetic roots in the Southern Levant and are related to the Canaanites.
Archaeology has repeatedly confirmed that the Jewish peoples originated in the Southern Levant thousands of years prior to Arabs leaving the Arabian Peninsula. Archaeology has also repeatedly confirmed that the presence of Arabs and the Arabic language in the Middle East and North Africa everywhere outside of the Arabian Peninsula, including the Southern Levant where Israel is situated, is the result of past imperialist colonialist expansions and forced assimilations.
Historic records repeatedly emphasize not only the Indigenous presence of Jews in the Southern Levant, but the fact that there remained a number of them in the Southern Levant to meet every outside group which came into the region, including Arabs. Even Arabic and Ottoman Empire historical records confirm that Jews were in the Southern Levant before them.
Case in point, the historic and linguistic origins of the name, “Jew.” European languages call Jews “Jude,” “Jew,” etc, because they are shortened derivations from “Judean.” A “Judean” is a native of “Judea” which was one the historic Jewish nations in the Southern Levant which predates Arabs arriving in the Southern Levant. Even the terms that Arabic speakers use for Jews, “Yahud” and “Yahudi,” testify that Jews are the Indigenous population of the Southern Levant. As there is no “J” sound in Hebrew, the actual name of “Judea” was “Yahuda.” A “Yahud” or “Yahudi” is a native of the historical Southern Levantine nation of “Yahuda.” Descendants of Egyptian Mizrahim Jews, frequently get called “Yahud” by Arabs in the US despite not publicly wearing any outward signs because they recognize the phenotype.
Rome–an imperialist colonialist power not indigenous to the Southern Levant–erasing the linkages between Jews–ie Judeans–and their homeland–Judea–by renaming it Syria Palaestina after the Bar Kochba Revolt to punish the Jews–ie Judeans. Then, the British Empire–an imperialist colonialist power not indigenous to the Southern Levant–renamed the region, Palestine.
Also reference the historical documentation of the Ottoman Empire–a Middle Eastern Imperialist colonialist power–which records that they shipped European converts to Islam from the Balkans, Russia and Ukraine to the Southern Levant as colonialists where they ended up assimilated into Arabic language and culture. It ignores the historical records, genealogies, genetic tests and even surnames which indicates that Palestinian Arabs’ families came from various parts of the Middle East and North Africa. This can be seen with such surnames as “al Masri” and “al Misr” which indicates that their families were from Egypt. It can be seen in surnames such as “al Tikrit” and “al Mosul” which indicate that those families came from the cities of Tikrit and Mosul in Iraq. It also can be seen in the surname “al Hind” which indicates that those families came from the India-Pakistan-Bangladesh region. It can be seen in clan names which have been documented to have originated on the Arabian Peninsula in what is now Saudi Arabia, such as “Erakat” and “Harbi.” And this email ignores the historical records which documents that a minority of the founding population of today’s Palestinian Arabs were Indigenous Jews, Indigenous Christians, Indigenous Druze and the descendants of Roman and European Crusader colonists whom were forcibly converted to Islam and forcibly assimilated into Arabic language and culture by past imperialist colonialism.
Indigenous Jews were illegally ethnic cleansed from what is now Palestinian Authority controlled territory and eastern Jerusalem during Jordan’s illegal invasion and illegal occupation despite the Indigenous Jews being there for centuries before Arabs left the Arabian Peninsula. It ignores the fact that Jordan illegally replaced the Indigenous Jews there with its Arab citizens whom its rulers decided to exile. It ignores the fact that Egypt during it’s illegal invasion and illegal occupation of Gaza treated Gaza like an open air prison by exiling its prisoners there.
Hamas and the Palestinian Authority violate human rights, the women’s rights, the LGBTQ rights and the religous rights of their citizens. They do not allow elections. Villages like that of US Representative Rashida Harbi Tlaib’s grandmother aren’t allowed to choose their own village leaders, the Palestinian Authority chooses them. And what they call “Israeli occupation” isn’t occupying their territories. It is controlling border regions to keep weapons away from them and terrorists out of Israeli territory. Otherwise, Israel lets Hamas and the Palestinian Authority control their own territories.
Historical documentation records that Jews from all of the major divisions of the Jewish peoples–Ashkenazim, Sephardim and Mizrahim–had ties with the Jews whom never left the Southern Levant. Ties which included intermarriage and moving there to join their Southern Levantine relatives centuries before modern Israel was refounded. It ignores the historic documentation which records that the British Empire–which is not indigenous to the Southern Levant–in addition to allowing Arabs to illegally immigrate to the “Territory of Palestine” where they weren’t indigenous also actively tried to prevent Jews from joining their Indigenous relatives in the Territory despite the international mandate which recognized the Territory as the Jewish homeland and required the British to facilitate Jewish resettlement there as the returning Indigenous population, not Arabs. Thus, it is the Palestinian Arabs whom are in the Southern Levant as the result of imperialist colonialism, not Jews. Jews are there as the result of the Zionist Indigenous rights movement despite imperialist colonialism.
Human rights are afforded to its citizens by Israel. Israel protects religious rights, women’s rights and LGBTQ rights. By way of contrast, this email ignores the fact that all of the Arab powers surrounding Israel, including the Palestinian Authority and Hamas in Gaza, persecutes LGBTQ and non-Muslims which has resulted in refugees seeking asylum in Israel. It ignores the violations of women’s rights in the Arab powers surrounding Israel. And it ignores the Apartheid ethnic cleansing of JIMENA (Jews Indigenous to the Middle East and North Africa), such as my Egyptian Jewish ancestors, from Arab nations and from the parts of Gaza and from the parts of Palestinian Authority controlled territories which Indigenous Jews once lived in for centuries before Arabs left the Arabian Peninsula.
Over half of Israel’s Jewish population consists of JIMENA whose families were forcibly, and in some cases genocidally, expelled from Muslim countries. It ignores the Apartheid restrictions which non-Muslims have to live under in Arab nations.
You can’t ignore the genocide that Assad’s Syria committed against a Palestinian Arab refugee camp. It ignores the Apartheid restrictions which Arab nations place on Palestinian Arab refugees in their countries which deny them paths to citizenship, the rights to movement within the countries, the rights to certain educational training and the rights to work in certain careers. It also ignores the fact that Israel allows Arab–Christian and Muslim–citizens to live where they choose, worship as they choose as long as they respect the rights of others, be educated as they choose, work in the careers of their choice, serve in the military and serve in the government.
There is a history of the Arab world’s wars with Israel. It was the Arab nations whom forced Palestinian Arabs to leave the region and become refugees after the Arab powers attacked Israel. Israel assimilated the JIMENA whom were expelled from Muslim countries–whom incidentally outnumbered the Palestinian Arabs whom became refugees. The Arab nations whom forced Palestinian Arabs to flee and become refugees have refused to assimilate those refugees and actively persecutes them.
The long history of Palestinian Arabs committing acts of violence against Jews which predates the re-founding of modern Israel and continues until today. Hajj Amin al Husseini, a former Jerusalem Mufti, incited violent attacks on Jews during the 1920s and 1930s. And during WW2, he joined the Nazis, talked the Nazis into killing European Jews instead of deporting them to what is now Israel, became the Nazi’s Arab world propagandist and led an all Bosnian SS Einsatzgruppen unit which rounded up and mass shot Eastern European Jews. And this instructor’s email ignores the genocidal statement of intent against Jews worldwide in Hamas’s founding charter.
Your words could be perceived to be incitement against Israel and Jews by mischaracterizing the Zionist Indigenous rights movement of Jews as colonialism and imperialism when all of the evidence supports the Jews as being the Indigenous population of the region, not the Palestinian Arabs. By mischaracterizing the Palestinian Arabs as the indigenous population of the region when all of the evidence supports that they are there as the result of past imperialist colonialism, this instructor’s email creates the false impression that Jews are the colonialist aggressors in the region as the result of imperialism against whom an indigenous population is resisting. When in reality, it is the Jews whom are the Indigenous population whom is resisting the aggression of colonialist Palestinian Arabs in the region as the result of multiple instances of imperialist colonialism.